Not on this thread, sorry - too much gankage already.sgtmac_46 said:And the 'horesless carriage' can make people just as dead, regardless of the alleged difference in 'design'. It isn't the 'design' that makes guns or vehicles deadly (as the assumption that the designer lends it intent would presume) but ENTIRELY the actions of the operator. I'm not sure what you meant by 'since we don't have firearm eucation and licensing coming up for most 16-year old's in this country'. Perhaps you could explain what you mean.
A designer does not need to instill inanimate objects with a desire to denote a purpose to a tool. Ask any craftsman this and he will tell you, but I'm done ganking the thread with this nonsense.sgtmac_46 said:Again, you are falling back on the intent of the 'designer' which as ZERO to do with the intent of the user. The designer does not instill inanimate objects with a 'desire' to 'act' in a given way. How an object acts, is entirely the decision of the user. If you accidentally stab your partner in the eye with an ice-pick, he is no less blind than if you accidentally hit him in the eye with birdshot. It is your INTENT and ACTIONS (both intentional and unintentional) that created the circumstances, not the intent of the designer of your tool.
I would ask you, then, to go find all the excellent drivers out there and give them their deserved firearm and to go find all the crappy drivers out there and remove them of theirs. Start a thread on guns vs. motor vehicles as weapons and I may join the discussion, however, no more here.sgtmac_46 said:Sure, you said that they weren't the same thing, a gun was designed for 'killing' (your words) while a car was designed for driving. You made it clear that the two were somehow different in the degree of care expected in their use. I keep asking exactly how you arrive at the fact that one should require a greater degree of care.
One might also include words, catch-phrases and intent.sgtmac_46 said:We learn not to be careless operating tools that are dangerous. That would be the lesson I hope we would learn. Many tools we use can hurt us and innocent by-standers, whether it be a shotgun on a hunting trip, a car driving down the road, a jack hammer, or a machine press. We need to pay attention.