Discussion in 'Hapkido' started by adamr01, Jun 25, 2019.
Caveat Emptor are words to live by.
I agree, my teacher introduced me to a Korean gentleman at a training weekend for black belts and above, I had mentioned to my teacher I was interested in going to Korea, at the training session, the gentleman from Korea trained with me, talked to me, at the end of the weekend end, he informed me that he would write a recommendation letter for me, several months later, I received the invite to go to Korea, along with a letter of introduction. I cannot remember the Korean gentleman's name, but the person I trained under in Korea was a gentleman called Kim Nam Jae. So I will amend my statement, if you get the chance to go to the country of origin, through your federation, then grab it with both hands.
I thought only posh British used the word umpteenth, do you drink tea from a porcelain cup, with your pinky finger sticking out?.
It's pretty common usage in the US, too.
I don't think there's anything special about training in the country of origin, from an intensity standpoint, or even necessarily from a depth of understanding. In some cases, there is greater depth of understanding (higher concentration of highly experienced practitioners) and in other cases there's just more adherence to the traditional methods (which may be good or may not). And intensity can vary by culture (which may favor the country of origin or not) and by school/instructor.
Quite simply put, exposure leads to contamination, would be my answer to your post, in the UK at the time of my training, Hapkido was not, and still is not well known, so there was a lack of quality instructors, going to Korea changed my fundamental approach to what was possible, and how to achieve it, they say seeing is believing, but knowing and doing is a whole new ball game. However, attending Hapkido seminars in the USA, under high ranking Koreans who had emigrated there, was equally as educational, so I will agree with you.
I'm not sure I understand the "exposure leads to contamination" comment. Can you clarify that?
Yes, it's a saying we have that means, when we are exposed to a way of training in my example, it has a habit of influencing us. You may found it used as an expression when a child starts to hang around with the wrong crowd, the more time spent with these people, the more their ways influence.
I can agree with that. I guess I'm not sure how that applies to whether training is in the country of origin or not. It would seem to imply what's more important is the level of ability/expertise of the people you train with.
They weren’t speaking Latin in old China either, so that is a big difference between the history of your system and the history of mine.
It applies because the level of quality Hapkido in the UK at this time was low, in Korea it was massive, the USA had Korean migrants bringing a wealth of quality,, I think in my time there was 2 quality teachers, going to Korea was like having a limit of what was possible, completely removed, it was like a light switch, suddenly the things that I was confused about or never understood, suddenly made sense.it is different now days, let's just say, I wanted to learn nihon goshin Aikido in the uk, I would wager there are none, according to your Web site, there is none in Japan, so I would have to travel to the USA to get quality instruction, back in the day, you had to travel.
Umpteenth is one of my favorite words, along with kibosh.
But I must admit I do love tea, really like porcelain cups, and I have been known on occasion to elevate the pinky.
I am a pinky raising fool.
True. But I'll wager that every style started with "a bunch of guys got together and figured out a way to fight..."
That’s probably true. Somewhere along the way the story says that someone got inspiration somehow that revealed a new and better way to do things. Usually it was a wondering monk or a famous general. I mean my gawd, we couldn’t admit that the town latrine cleaner founded our system. We just absolutely could not have it. A wandering monk (mysterious and unnamed) or a famous general from at least 700 years ago sounds much better.
Often today, quality traditional Chinese martial arts is easier to find outside of China, or in Taiwan. In China, it is mostly the government sanctioned Modern Performance Wushu.
One day we will have a beer and a laugh
I would enjoy that. Beer and laughter are quite okay in my book.
Perhaps we will even raise pinkies.
I was always partial to the wandering monk thing. But I always wondered why monks tended to wander?
I mean, did they finally make "Monk status" and the head guy said "Go forth and wander?"
In the story, the monk is always wandering so that nobody tries to go out and find him to ask about the truth of the story. Fellow could be anywhere, including dead in a ditch in the middle of Oklahoma.123
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