There are no blocks in Karate

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OK. We are trying to fit actual things into the terminology rather than use terminology to describe actual things.

I mean is anybody actually unsure as to the basic differences between a block a cover or a parry? And we can probably figure out that one may meld into the other under certain circumstances.
 

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OK. We are trying to fit actual things into the terminology rather than use terminology to describe actual things.

I mean is anybody actually unsure as to the basic differences between a block a cover or a parry? And we can probably figure out that one may meld into the other under certain circumstances.
Both the XingYi system and the Karate system all have the "upward block". In the XingYi system, the "upward block" is used as if you "raise up a curtain and then walk under it".

Is that a block, a deflect, or ...?
 
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Both the XingYi system and the Karate system all have the "upward block". In the XingYi system, the "upward block" is used as if you "raise up a curtain and then walk under it".

Is that a block, a deflect, or ...?

If it was a punch it would be a deflect if it was a karate chop it would be a block.
 

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If the force is perpendicular to the punch it is a deflection. The vector is charged.

If the punch force is interrupted it's a block.

Physics wins.

All that reception application stuff is great but when you spar 99 times out of a hundred you will just deflect or block.

The applications/reception stuff is useful and works fine, but the set piece applications are not the path to victory. They either work or they don't. The path to victory encoded in the kata is in the strategy; the method behind the set pieces, and that is most clearly encoded through basic application: deflections and strikes. When something doesn't make sense as either of those that's when you need to look for locks or uke as strikes etc. Then you can find effective tactical guidelines that go beyond specific techniques and are adaptable to any situation.

Simplicity first and foremost.
 

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