Texas Dad Beats His Daughter’s Molester to Death

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  1. Zoran

    Zoran Black Belt

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    I am a father of a 5 year old girl. I can't say I would never do this as just the thought pretty much makes me crazy.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/he-...as-dad-beats-his-daughters-molester-to-death/

    Will be interesting to see how it plays out.
     
  2. Steve

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    Personally, I can't find it in my heart to blame the guy. I'm not a particularly violent person, but I am not sure I'd be able to show restraint in that situation.
     
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    I feel the same as Steve on this. Being the father of a grown daughter I can tell you it was of concern to me as we raised our daughter. It would be hard to fine forgiveness in my heart if it were my daughter.
     
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    I don't think there is a person who could blame this parent for his actions.
     
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    No sure why the daughter was in a barn alone with out a parent but yeah I'd have beaten him too and depending on what I saw when I entered the barn beating him to death might have been too good for him. Raped by a horse 1st seems better punishment
     
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    of course the father can now be brought up on charges of manslaughter or something similar. And if the sexual assault had not progressed far enough to leave evidence that would be found at the hospital, casting some doubt on the claim, it might be straight up murder.
     
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    Sounds like justifiable homicide to me, I certainly can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing in that situation.



    Being Texas I'd think that the chances of a grand jury indicting him would be low, and the odds of getting a jury that would convict even lower.
     
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    Well, yeah.
     
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    Most of us would have done the same thing... It is capital felony, punishable by death in the legal system anyway... so why not get it over with and skip the whole trial and jury nonsense :)
     
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    no body can blame the dad.....
     
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    I hope I would have enough self control to take this into account, but in that circumstance I'm not sure how far I would take it. And I never want to find out...
     
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    It is the proper way a decent society should handle injustices toward children.
     
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    A rape is an attempt on the victim's life IMO. I hope the dad is not charged.
     
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    Rape is a justification for lethal force in most jurisdictions-though a prosecutor might make something out of when and if the rapist was "subdued," the fact is that it's doubly lethal in the case of a 4 year old girl.

    I'd have killed him twice, just to be sure.

    That means, of course, that I'd take charges into account, and, with all due self-control, take out my knife and stab him in the heart after he stopped breathing, just to be sure.....
     
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    I'm a pacifist. But if anybody had tried to harm my kids there are 2 things I' absolutely sure of. 1) the level of violence inflicted of the scum would start at 'great'. 2) I have no clue where it would stop.

    This will never get past the Grand Jury.
     
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    Not knowing the exact circumstance I do have to way in though and say that the father is not completely free of wrong doing.

    A horse barn is not a safe place for a four year old on a good day. Barn owners loathe parents who do not supervise their children.
    While molestation is certainly the last thing one thinks about in a barn, things can happen to put the life of a child in danger or precious limbs like fingers being lost. Don't take long.

    While I am in the camp of the parents who would inflict bodily harm, I am also one of those parents who always had an eye on my kid at that age and much longer than that, really.
     
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    I'm female and if I found anyone touching my daughter in that way then I'd kill them willingly... The only thing that could stop me is them killing me first... Or my daughter being that terrified that I'd get her out of there, but Id hunt him down!!!
     
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    I understand the desire to really, REALLY hurt the creep. My feelings are for the little girl though. First she is molested then she may lose her dad to jail because her father could not control himself. I'm not saying I would have done any better in that situation, but seems to me the best interest of the child would be if daddy is still there instead of jail. Sometimes being a good parent means thinking of the kid first and denying yourself. Poppa didn't do that.
     
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    Same here.
     
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    A little more info today:

    And apparently the father didn't use a weapon, but beat the rapist to death.

    From the available information, justifiable homicide in defense of another seems likely. I can't imagine any father showing restraint in such circumstances.123
     

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