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Wat sucker punches have u guys used effectively? Any replies appreciated
Not my fault if my opponent isn't ready, but I don't consider self defense a sport. I didn't do it to feel good about myself either. He made his bed.MA-Caver said:By "sucker-punch" it is presumed you mean hitting the guy when he isn't looking/ready or unprepared.
To me a true martialist and a gentleman doesn't use sucker punches. It's not very sporting nor is it the act of someone who holds their values to the point that they can walk away feeling good about themselves.
It's dirty fighting and while the words of my oldest brother are still with me; "...there's no such thing as a 'clean-fight'..." and it's probably true, I won't stoop that low.
But that's just me.![]()
Touch Of Death said:Not my fault if my opponent isn't ready, but I don't consider self defense a sport. I didn't do it to feel good about myself either. He made his bed.
Sean
Although that particular instance was avoidable but justified. I just can't see telling a person to put up there dukes before I fight them. I wouldn't be fighting if it was about being a good sport. Fighting is about treating someone with an "almost total lack of respect". I would not fight a person that deserved my respect.Jonathan Randall said:You were protecting a friend. I think, although he'd have to speak for himself, that MA Caver meant he wouldn't initiate an assault with a sucker punch - defining sucker punch as initiated by the aggressor and not as the pre-emptive strike you wrote of.
ross3805 said:Wat sucker punches have u guys used effectively? Any replies appreciated
ross3805 said:Wat sucker punches have u guys used effectively? Any replies appreciated
lonecoyote said:A better thing to discuss might be how to defend against a sucker punch. I'll add that everyone should guard against the handshake sucker punch. I've seen it used by aggressive drunks, and got caught with it one time. A guy you've had a beef with in a bar or on the street, makes the let's-shake-hands motion with a conciliatory attitude, there is a tendency to move in closer, tie up that hand with a shake and then BAM you catch one. The guy can actually pull the hand while punching, or just wait to see if you take the bait by deciding to shake, which puts you in an unaware attitude. I no longer shake with people who've been drinking or look strange or on drugs.
Its not that you need the suprise. Once the fight has started and his timing is effected by what ever, its not my responsibility to ask him to pay attention before I make my move. In fact, it would be quite irresponsible to do so if you have a valid reason to permanently effect his timing. ( an insult to your mommy a not a valid reason)arnisador said:A sucker punch is an attack...why would I use one? (A pre-emptive strike is different.) Unless you're in the military being trained in sentry stalking, why would someone need surprise attacks for self-defense?
lonecoyote said:You must be the meanest kid in high school. That restroom thing could be messy.
lonecoyote said:Okay, that doesn't count. If that counts, then tricking my wife into the "dutch oven" counts (you can only do it once)