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[Gyakuto]

Tourists to Japan are increasingly causing problems by flaunting rules and laws, being disrespectful to the places they visit, often places regarded as being sacred. Desperate measures are being taken in some places.

Mount Fuji Lawson Puts Up Blockade to Keep Out Tourists

The most famous convenience store in Japan has been forced to take drastic measures to stop hordes of bad-mannered tourists.

www.tokyoweekender.com

I wonder who these people are, citizens of which countries are the worst culprits and should the tourist board deal with them?

 

[Hyoho]

Tourists to Japan are increasingly causing problems by flaunting rules and laws, being disrespectful to the places they visit, often places regarded as being sacred. Desperate measures are being taken in some places.

Mount Fuji Lawson Puts Up Blockade to Keep Out Tourists

The most famous convenience store in Japan has been forced to take drastic measures to stop hordes of bad-mannered tourists.

www.tokyoweekender.com

I wonder who these people are, citizens of which countries are the worst culprits and should the tourist board deal with them?

Years ago some Onsens had a ban on Russians. An American, David Aldwinckle (Debito) who was a naturalized Japanese was refused entry. He sued and won the case for 3 million yen damages.

 

[Gyakuto]

Years ago some Onsens had a ban on Russians. An American, David Aldwinckle (Debito) who was a naturalized Japanese was refused entry. He sued and won the case for 3 million yen damages.

I’ve worked with Russians…they’re an interesting group of people…

 

[Xue Sheng]

It would be interesting to know the nationality of the majority of tourist who are doing this.

 

[Fungus]

I wonder who these people are, citizens of which countries are the worst culprits and should the tourist board deal with them?

I think the standards of manners & courtesy are very high in Japan, compared to many countries. I've long experience with business relations with Japanese companies and from what they told me they often find many european partners strangely "rude" and "disrespectful" partly because of cultural differences and things they take very seriously, many europeans don't, unless you learn the japanese manners.

Here I'd say jaywalking is taken lightly, especially if you are on vacation, then rules don't apply

 

[Gyakuto]

I think the standards of manners & courtesy are very high in Japan, compared to many countries.

I think they’re pretty high in Europe too, especially in England, depending upon the circle in which you move, I suppose. I had no problem slipping into the etiquette when in Japan.

I've long experience with business relations with Japanese companies and from what they told me they often find many european partners strangely "rude" and "disrespectful" partly because of cultural differences

Western business people tend to be more ‘up front’ and direct compared to the very indirect way of the Japanese tend to be. I remember our area association trying to book a senior Japanese teacher for a future seminar. He ummed and ahhed and said “well… maybe” even though he did not want to come on that one days; he just wouldn’t say ‘No’. Very frustrating.

Here I'd say jaywalking is taken lightly, especially if you are on vacation, then rules don't apply

I did’t know what that term meant until a few years ago. Here, if there’s no imminent traffic danger, you cross the road regardless of the colour of the traffic lights!

 

[Hyoho]

It would be interesting to know the nationality of the majority of tourist who are doing this.

A friend of mine visited recently. Walking around a park taking photos he was violently pushed forwards in the back. The lady who did it was Chinese. Some are rather bullish and abrupt to say the least. Also most of the tourist are Chinese.

Message to foreigners at Japanese convenience store sparks controversy online

Japanese convenience stores are known for being wonderful havens, where you can get everything from cat breads to pancake steamed buns at any time of the day or night. With such glowing reputations attached to them, it came as a bit of a shock to find one convenience store that wasn’t so amiable to…

japantoday.com

 

[Gyakuto]

I noticed the ‘no squatting and smoking’ and ‘no spitting’ signs around Tokyo and wondered to whom these, very specific instructions , were aimed.

The article you posted was interesting, too. I agree with the jarring nature of the word ‘foreigner ’. It seems…impolite. In the U.K. we’d say ‘overseas’ although we do have a governmental ‘Foreign Office’!

 

[Xue Sheng]

A friend of mine visited recently. Walking around a park taking photos he was violently pushed forwards in the back. The lady who did it was Chinese. Some are rather bullish and abrupt to say the least. Also most of the tourist are Chinese.

Message to foreigners at Japanese convenience store sparks controversy online

Japanese convenience stores are known for being wonderful havens, where you can get everything from cat breads to pancake steamed buns at any time of the day or night. With such glowing reputations attached to them, it came as a bit of a shock to find one convenience store that wasn’t so amiable to…

japantoday.com

There have been a lot of complaints, globally, about Chinese tourists

 

[Hot Lunch]

There's a city in Austria called "Fugging." That's how it has been spelled since 2021. How was it spelled before that? Use your imagination. There's a reason they had to change the name, and it was due to a certain nationality of tourists...

 

[Fungus]

Western business people tend to be more ‘up front’ and direct compared to the very indirect way of the Japanese tend to be. I remember our area association trying to book a senior Japanese teacher for a future seminar. He ummed and ahhed and said “well… maybe” even though he did not want to come on that one days; he just wouldn’t say ‘No’. Very frustrating.

Yes, I very much recognize that. Because Japanense feel it is very rude to say NO (turn down or reject) an offer as it may be perceived as insulting.

 

[O'Malley]

I noticed the ‘no squatting and smoking’ and ‘no spitting’ signs around Tokyo and wondered to whom these, very specific instructions , were aimed.

Could be a rule that sounds general but is for the locals. Squatting and smoking is associated with the image of Japanese delinquents, among others:

 

[Gyakuto]

Could be a rule that sounds general but is for the locals. Squatting and smoking is associated with the image of Japanese delinquents, among others:

Ah! I didn’t know that!

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Tourists to Japan are increasingly causing problems by flaunting rules and laws, being disrespectful to the places they visit, often places regarded as being sacred. Desperate measures are being taken in some places.

Mount Fuji Lawson Puts Up Blockade to Keep Out Tourists

The most famous convenience store in Japan has been forced to take drastic measures to stop hordes of bad-mannered tourists.

www.tokyoweekender.com

I wonder who these people are, citizens of which countries are the worst culprits and should the tourist board deal with them?

Brits again.

 

[Gyakuto]

Brits again.

It can’t be. There was no soccer tournament and thus lager drinking and brawling. That’s all Brits want

 

[Buka]

We have a lot of tourists out here. I can’t remember a Chinese tourist getting out of hand or being rude. And I’ve worked plenty of twelve hour shifts at the TSA checkpoint.

I remember quite a few Americans getting out of hand though.

 

[gyoja]

It can’t be. There was no soccer tournament and thus lager drinking and brawling. That’s all Brits want

My unit had a stop over in Nova Scotia once that turned into an over nighter due to weather. Our British counterparts showed up and were stuck in the same predicament. We collectively managed to get the bar open, then the general shenanigans ensued…😂

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

It can’t be. There was no soccer tournament and thus lager drinking and brawling. That’s all Brits want

The Dutch say different…

 

[hoshin1600]

I dont feel right calling out a nationality or accusing them of offenses in a public or forum setting. I will say my wife who is a waitress has a particular dislike for what she calls "abung" people. They are the most rude and demanding and consistently leave zero for a tip at the end of the meal, even when they feel the service was good, for which here in the US should be 20%.
When we were back home in Thailand, visiting the kings palace. The entry attendant told my wife we should come back later because there was a group of about 200 tourists from xxxx. This nationality is slowly over populating Thailand. They are not particularly liked because they are loud and rude.
This is a global problem due to cultural differences and the mass migrations of people in today's world.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

I dont feel right calling out a nationality or accusing them of offenses in a public or forum setting. I will say my wife who is a waitress has a particular dislike for what she calls "abung" people. They are the most rude and demanding and consistently leave zero for a tip at the end of the meal, even when they feel the service was good, for which here in the US should be 20%.
When we were back home in Thailand, visiting the kings palace. The entry attendant told my wife we should come back later because there was a group of about 200 tourists from xxxx. This nationality is slowly over populating Thailand. They are not particularly liked because they are loud and rude.
This is a global problem due to cultural differences and the mass migrations of people in today's world.

I was teasing @Gyakuto, no actual offense was intended, all apologies.