John Danaher: "The next big evolution in Bjj is developing a unique standing position"

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  1. Acronym

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    This is copy and pasted Judo

     
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    Based on....?
     
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    The BJJ curriculum started out as one and the same as judo - that’s not a subject of debate
    But it has evolved differently for quite a while and should rightly be considered as a separate style now
     
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    Kosen Judo existed before BJJ, although tied tog Japan and with win by pinning. This obviously makes a difference but plenty of Kosen Judokas have submitted BJJ guys.
     
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    Uh, yes they were. They were looked down upon, but they were still practiced because BJJ had a huge rivalry with Luta Livre for decades, and those guys used leg locks constantly. This is how Royce Gracie was able to counter Ken Shamrock's leg lock attempt at the start of their match in UFC. Royce saw it coming a mile away because Bjj practitioners had fought leg-lockers for years.

    In modern BJJ, competitive leg locks largely come from either Catch, 10th Planet or Danher's leg lock system. I don't know where you're getting the notion that Bjj copy pasted from Kosen Judo because the rule sets are entirely different.

    Like for example, there's no leg locks allowed in Kosen Judo.
     
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    That video is from 60 years ago. Do you really think that Bjj hasn't changed in 60 years? FYI, Bjj has changed dramatically in the last 10 years.
     
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    Sure
    No one is suggesting that BJJ, Kodokan Judo and Kosen Judo are not related or that BJJ isn’t derived from Judo
     
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    You can go to most Bjj academies and there’s a picture of Jigoro Kano right next to Helio Gracie.
     
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    I'm not sure how that relates to the post you quoted.
     
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    Oh stop the griping. BJJ was made by bunch of Mayan Aliens

    Sent from my SM-T860 using Tapatalk
     
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    So let me guess. You are an Eddie Bravo guy?123
     

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