Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
Not trying to start and don't want a "My lineage is better than your lineage" thread, so please keep the politics to a minimum.
Years ago when I was learning Sil Lum Tao for the first time I wanted a video to help me remember what I was learning. I ended up getting a VCD from China because, as I thought then, where better to get a video of a chinese martial art than China. I got it, put it in the DVD player and what I sa was rather different than what I was being taught.
I later discovered what had happened was that I was I was being taught Sil Lum Tao in the Ip Man branch of Wing Chun and the VCD was the Pan Nam branch of Wing Chun. Up to that point I didn't even know there were different, non-Ip Man branches of Wing Chun
Last night I was thinking about this and out of curiosity I started looking for a branch of Wing Chun that was not from Ip Man and I did not find one.
Made me think about Yang stye taijiquan, finding a branch that does not come from Yang Chengfu is near impossible, and those I have seen that claimed to be from Yang Luchan, Yang Banhou or Yang Shaohou likely are not. Save one I saw, he was an old Yang stylist in China who, to be honest ,I am not sure if he is still alive, but what he did have the characteristics of what I would expect in Yang style that predates Yang Chengfu's change to the style.
And I am now thinking the same about Wing Chun, do any of the non-Ip Man branches still exist, and if so, do any exist outside of China? And how rare are they?
I also know there is a very old Chinese practice of claiming lineages to famous folks to better sell your product (style). Could this have occured in Wing Chun? one branch claiming to be from Ip Man when they were actually part of another branch?
Years ago when I was learning Sil Lum Tao for the first time I wanted a video to help me remember what I was learning. I ended up getting a VCD from China because, as I thought then, where better to get a video of a chinese martial art than China. I got it, put it in the DVD player and what I sa was rather different than what I was being taught.
I later discovered what had happened was that I was I was being taught Sil Lum Tao in the Ip Man branch of Wing Chun and the VCD was the Pan Nam branch of Wing Chun. Up to that point I didn't even know there were different, non-Ip Man branches of Wing Chun
Last night I was thinking about this and out of curiosity I started looking for a branch of Wing Chun that was not from Ip Man and I did not find one.
Made me think about Yang stye taijiquan, finding a branch that does not come from Yang Chengfu is near impossible, and those I have seen that claimed to be from Yang Luchan, Yang Banhou or Yang Shaohou likely are not. Save one I saw, he was an old Yang stylist in China who, to be honest ,I am not sure if he is still alive, but what he did have the characteristics of what I would expect in Yang style that predates Yang Chengfu's change to the style.
And I am now thinking the same about Wing Chun, do any of the non-Ip Man branches still exist, and if so, do any exist outside of China? And how rare are they?
I also know there is a very old Chinese practice of claiming lineages to famous folks to better sell your product (style). Could this have occured in Wing Chun? one branch claiming to be from Ip Man when they were actually part of another branch?
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