Black Belt in FMA

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  1. angelariz

    angelariz Yellow Belt

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    I've seen some systems, like my beloved Modern Arnis has belts. However most of the other FMA I've trained were very informal. As a matter of fact much of the time we are in street clothes and are training in yards and parks. That being said, most of the people I've been training with over the years used 2 ranks...instructors and senior instructor. Everyone else is a associate practitioner.

    It has been a long time but I want to earn an official instructor rank in Arnis but as of now I am a High Green belt.
    With Sifu Vunak I am a full instructor in his Kali.
    I do not really have the need for another black belt but I am curious why people need the lofty ranks in a genre that 50 years ago didnt even have a belt system.

    Either way I look up and send my respect to all my seniors from the FMA genre.
     
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    Headhunter Senior Master

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    I don’t know about that system At all but as a whole in martial arts. Black belt is a universally known thing to everyone even non marital artists so I know some systems such as kickboxing put in belt rankings so they can put it in their portfolio for lack of a better word and say hey I’m a black belt That means I’m legit.

    like I said I’m not a FMA guy so this could be wrong but I know that’s what’s happened with some systems
     
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    Monkey Turned Wolf MT Moderator Staff Member

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    Is your question more about there being a ranking system in general, or that they use belts for that ranking system?

    There’s a lot of arguments for having/not having a ranking system that I can get into if you want, but for specifically black belt..all the students are going to compare it to black belt. Same with people outside the system. My kali style has certificates/ranks that are focused around level of student/instructor, similar to but not exactly the same as a belt system. If I tell someone I train it, sometimes they’ll ask me what my rank is. Without fail, I either get the response “what’s that mean”, or “sooo is that like a black belt?” Sometimes it’s easier to just bypass that and use belts.
     
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    The question is pertaining to the physical black belt. Technically the first instructor rank is Lakan Isa. But as you said, most people want to equate an instructor rank with a black belt. Truthfully, I find a lot of FMA instructors are trained in weapons and H2H combatives that make them, in my opinion a higher level of martial artist than those who are shodan in something that only uses weapons in forms. That being said, I dont wear belts and my students dont get any rank until they know the material back and forth.
    My old teacher taught me with the confetti method. I tweaked it to be a progressive system but when the basics are learned, I switch to the confetti method as well.
     
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    Blindside Senior Master

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    My larger association has a curriculum with a fairly extensive rank system. In my club there are no symbols of rank or titles. Everybody knows who the instructors are. The first promotion a student of mine would receive is to "lakan Guro" or roughly "assistant instructor."123
     
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