Brad Dunne
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Received this e-mail from one of my former students. Would like to have folks read it and offer their opinion(s) on what transpired. If you found something of value that could/would aid in your training, what would it be?
Sorry I cut it short but I accidentally hit the send button then i had to get to work I am on second shift now.
Anyway I was assigned to processing and I brought two inmates into the dressing room. Upon entering the dressing room they where both complaining to each other about how they should not be in the jail that the cop made up some bogus charges. They where the normal grumpy inmates. Then they became irritated that they had to dress in an inmate uniform because they where being bonded out and they did not belong there anyway. I did not think anything of it, it is a normal occurrence.
I tell them the quicker I get them through this process the quicker they get to a bed and once their bond goes through they can get out. I also informed them that the reason that we make them change is that some times people where going several days in the street clothes. This usually calms them down. Both of them did calm down. It started to become clear that these two guys where either buddies or kinda clicked and sided with each other.
I got both of them uniforms and proceeded to instruct them to change in to the uniforms and what to do with their street clothes. Here is where things when bad. The one scumbag looked at me and said what are you going to watch us change are you a fag or something, (something to that effect).
My norm is to say well it is my job and it is for your safety also. The idiot started getting agitated and shooting his mouth off about something. At this point I distanced myself from him and told him either he changes his clothes or go to lockdown and his bond would be revoked. On a bond this is not true but it usually works you have to go through leaps and bounds to get a bond revoked it is next to impossible.
Next thing I know he is lashing out at me low with a straight thrust towards my belly. I sprung backwards and to the left and parried his strike with my left hand and I punched him in his kidney he fell to his knees. Here is where I made my mistake. I created a large distance 10-15 feet between us and reached for my mic to call for back up. I should have proceeded to clobber the crap out of him but there was one the these non certified inmate lovers that has complained several times about Officers doing there jobs.
I did not have time to call for back up. He was back on his feet and coming at me quickly, this is when I noticed the knife I never noticed it the first time. He started dancing around in front of me his buddy started yelling Stab Him Kill the prick. I then realized that i was going to be fighting two people. He flipped the knife over into an ice pick style grip as he was flipping the knife I kicked him in the groin with my left foot and steped to the side at 45 degree angel and got beside him I then delivered a punch to his neck as hard as i could. My strike landed just over the main artery in his neck he fell to the floor harder than I have ever seen somebody fall before and he was not moving.
Blood was coming out of his mouth. My next thought was is he down did i just hit his jaw. I looked up at the other guy he was reaching for the knife. I yelled get away from the knife he bent over reached down for it. I kicked him in the face with a front kick using my right leg as he was picking the knife up. He kind of recoiled up into a squatting position there was blood pouring out of his nose. I then side kicked him as hard as I could I have no idea where I hit him I just heard cracking and popping. He fell backwards and landed several feet away from where I kicked him.
I reached for my radio and just about then about 10 officers came barging in the door. Both where cuffed. They guy that originally hand the knife was 911'd to the hospital. He woke up as the paramedics arrived he was barely able to breath and choking on blood, blood was everywhere. He then passed out again. The second guy was transported to the hospital non emergency. He had 2 fractured ribs and a broken nose. The first guys throat did swell shut and they where able to give him a tracheotomy (that is spelled wrong) you know they basically put a whole throat so he could breath. He also suffered a brain injury either from the punch or his head hitting the ground and bruised and swollen testicles. He went into a coma due to the brain injury and they where not sure if he was going to live, I found out in a round about way that the doctors where pretty much sure he was going to die and they stated it was a merical that he lived. The surgeons saved his life they had to do surgery at the hospital immediately to stop the bleeding and to basically fix his throat.
I have not seen either of the two since the incident. But I was told that the first guy is having complications with fine motor skills and speech due to some brain damage that he received. The second guy healed up but need surgery on his nose if he decides he needs to get is straightened. OK Dirt bag number one was arrested for a DUI. Second offense.
He was not strip searched they do not strip traffic charges and mistermeanors that are not drug charges. They are supposed to pat them and then use the metal detector on them obviously this was never done. The knife was in a sheath strapped to his belt and had atleast a 3 inch blade. How in the world could you miss that? The intake video and the processing video verified that my suspicions where true. Also it turns out that these two idiots where arrested together.
The second one was arrested on a warrant. They are supposed to he kept separate if they are arrested together or on related charges. In the computer they are listed as to have no contact. Also both got together and hired lawyer pukes and instead of taking it to court they got checks for 100,000 bucks I am serious 100,000. Here is where i get real pissed off. The state refused to take it to court they dropped all the charges The first idiot got time served and 6 moths probation for the DUI the second idiot got transferred to Pasco, so i don't know what happened to him. I wound up in a heavy Internal Affairs investigation.
I was exonerated. I was given 2 weeks paid administrative leave because of the incident. I actually refused it and told them that I wanted to come to work, administrative leave is actually a bad thing. But I was ordered to take the time due to the "Use of Deadly Force" policies. Yes, they deemed it a use of deadly force. Things could have turned out a whole lot worse but the way i figured it I won, I got a vacation and i was not injured. I also learned a valuable lesson in this incident which could have cost me my life, if it is on it is on no matter who is watching.
That about sums up what happened.
Sorry I cut it short but I accidentally hit the send button then i had to get to work I am on second shift now.
Anyway I was assigned to processing and I brought two inmates into the dressing room. Upon entering the dressing room they where both complaining to each other about how they should not be in the jail that the cop made up some bogus charges. They where the normal grumpy inmates. Then they became irritated that they had to dress in an inmate uniform because they where being bonded out and they did not belong there anyway. I did not think anything of it, it is a normal occurrence.
I tell them the quicker I get them through this process the quicker they get to a bed and once their bond goes through they can get out. I also informed them that the reason that we make them change is that some times people where going several days in the street clothes. This usually calms them down. Both of them did calm down. It started to become clear that these two guys where either buddies or kinda clicked and sided with each other.
I got both of them uniforms and proceeded to instruct them to change in to the uniforms and what to do with their street clothes. Here is where things when bad. The one scumbag looked at me and said what are you going to watch us change are you a fag or something, (something to that effect).
My norm is to say well it is my job and it is for your safety also. The idiot started getting agitated and shooting his mouth off about something. At this point I distanced myself from him and told him either he changes his clothes or go to lockdown and his bond would be revoked. On a bond this is not true but it usually works you have to go through leaps and bounds to get a bond revoked it is next to impossible.
Next thing I know he is lashing out at me low with a straight thrust towards my belly. I sprung backwards and to the left and parried his strike with my left hand and I punched him in his kidney he fell to his knees. Here is where I made my mistake. I created a large distance 10-15 feet between us and reached for my mic to call for back up. I should have proceeded to clobber the crap out of him but there was one the these non certified inmate lovers that has complained several times about Officers doing there jobs.
I did not have time to call for back up. He was back on his feet and coming at me quickly, this is when I noticed the knife I never noticed it the first time. He started dancing around in front of me his buddy started yelling Stab Him Kill the prick. I then realized that i was going to be fighting two people. He flipped the knife over into an ice pick style grip as he was flipping the knife I kicked him in the groin with my left foot and steped to the side at 45 degree angel and got beside him I then delivered a punch to his neck as hard as i could. My strike landed just over the main artery in his neck he fell to the floor harder than I have ever seen somebody fall before and he was not moving.
Blood was coming out of his mouth. My next thought was is he down did i just hit his jaw. I looked up at the other guy he was reaching for the knife. I yelled get away from the knife he bent over reached down for it. I kicked him in the face with a front kick using my right leg as he was picking the knife up. He kind of recoiled up into a squatting position there was blood pouring out of his nose. I then side kicked him as hard as I could I have no idea where I hit him I just heard cracking and popping. He fell backwards and landed several feet away from where I kicked him.
I reached for my radio and just about then about 10 officers came barging in the door. Both where cuffed. They guy that originally hand the knife was 911'd to the hospital. He woke up as the paramedics arrived he was barely able to breath and choking on blood, blood was everywhere. He then passed out again. The second guy was transported to the hospital non emergency. He had 2 fractured ribs and a broken nose. The first guys throat did swell shut and they where able to give him a tracheotomy (that is spelled wrong) you know they basically put a whole throat so he could breath. He also suffered a brain injury either from the punch or his head hitting the ground and bruised and swollen testicles. He went into a coma due to the brain injury and they where not sure if he was going to live, I found out in a round about way that the doctors where pretty much sure he was going to die and they stated it was a merical that he lived. The surgeons saved his life they had to do surgery at the hospital immediately to stop the bleeding and to basically fix his throat.
I have not seen either of the two since the incident. But I was told that the first guy is having complications with fine motor skills and speech due to some brain damage that he received. The second guy healed up but need surgery on his nose if he decides he needs to get is straightened. OK Dirt bag number one was arrested for a DUI. Second offense.
He was not strip searched they do not strip traffic charges and mistermeanors that are not drug charges. They are supposed to pat them and then use the metal detector on them obviously this was never done. The knife was in a sheath strapped to his belt and had atleast a 3 inch blade. How in the world could you miss that? The intake video and the processing video verified that my suspicions where true. Also it turns out that these two idiots where arrested together.
The second one was arrested on a warrant. They are supposed to he kept separate if they are arrested together or on related charges. In the computer they are listed as to have no contact. Also both got together and hired lawyer pukes and instead of taking it to court they got checks for 100,000 bucks I am serious 100,000. Here is where i get real pissed off. The state refused to take it to court they dropped all the charges The first idiot got time served and 6 moths probation for the DUI the second idiot got transferred to Pasco, so i don't know what happened to him. I wound up in a heavy Internal Affairs investigation.
I was exonerated. I was given 2 weeks paid administrative leave because of the incident. I actually refused it and told them that I wanted to come to work, administrative leave is actually a bad thing. But I was ordered to take the time due to the "Use of Deadly Force" policies. Yes, they deemed it a use of deadly force. Things could have turned out a whole lot worse but the way i figured it I won, I got a vacation and i was not injured. I also learned a valuable lesson in this incident which could have cost me my life, if it is on it is on no matter who is watching.
That about sums up what happened.
