Cruentus
Grandmaster
A qoute by Whoopass in a different thread sparked my interest to post this thread here. He said....
The context of this quote isn't really important, but I am wondering about the feelings on "hammering".
Considering that I put Whoopass on the spot, I do want to back him up to say that his point is very valid. I think that it's noble to not want to see anyone getting hammered, especially between members of the same art. To outsiders, two people argueing publically can make the art look bad, regardless of who is right.
On the other hand....
I also see validity in publically calling someone out, and questioning their actions. I don't think people should immaturily "hammer" each other (like call each other names, challange each other, etc.), even though it does happend when emotions run amok, and people are passionate about what they do. Unfortunatily, I have definatily been a culprit of "hammering.:hammer: However, I do see validity in openly questioning and/or disagreeing with someone if tastefully done.
Here is why....
In most industries, if you misrepresent yourself, or act unethically, you can potentially be punished by law. In the Martial Arts industry, you can make all the fraudulent claims that you want, act as unethically from a business prospective as you want, and there is little to no legal reprocutions. So, The only way we can "check and balance" each other, to ensure that truth and purity prevails in the system(s) that we love is to openly discuss (and sometimes argue, or question actions and motives). This is a way we can keep each other honest.
I see wrong in immaturely trying to "hammer" someone, but I think that an open discussion, even if it means questioning someone else, does more GOOD then it does harm.
What do you all think? I wanna hear everyone's thoughts/feelings on the matter. What do YOU define as hammering? Where should (or shouldn't) the line be drawn?
If you believe that public argueing is wrong all together, and that everything in the public eye should be "positive" and that no one should ever say anything negative or even questioning about someone else, then in what other ways, do you suggest, that we "check and balance" each other?
Sorry for the long post, but due to work constraints I really won't be able to address this thread until next week sometime. However, I value all of your opinions and input, and I would be happy to address the thread (and any questions you may have for me) next week.
I look foward to hearing your response.
Thanks!
:cheers:
PAUL
:asian:
Too bad that you've been hammered here. Keep in mind there are other folks who are quite decent in their posts. Of course, there are those who try to have it both ways.
The context of this quote isn't really important, but I am wondering about the feelings on "hammering".
Considering that I put Whoopass on the spot, I do want to back him up to say that his point is very valid. I think that it's noble to not want to see anyone getting hammered, especially between members of the same art. To outsiders, two people argueing publically can make the art look bad, regardless of who is right.
On the other hand....
I also see validity in publically calling someone out, and questioning their actions. I don't think people should immaturily "hammer" each other (like call each other names, challange each other, etc.), even though it does happend when emotions run amok, and people are passionate about what they do. Unfortunatily, I have definatily been a culprit of "hammering.:hammer: However, I do see validity in openly questioning and/or disagreeing with someone if tastefully done.
Here is why....
In most industries, if you misrepresent yourself, or act unethically, you can potentially be punished by law. In the Martial Arts industry, you can make all the fraudulent claims that you want, act as unethically from a business prospective as you want, and there is little to no legal reprocutions. So, The only way we can "check and balance" each other, to ensure that truth and purity prevails in the system(s) that we love is to openly discuss (and sometimes argue, or question actions and motives). This is a way we can keep each other honest.
I see wrong in immaturely trying to "hammer" someone, but I think that an open discussion, even if it means questioning someone else, does more GOOD then it does harm.
What do you all think? I wanna hear everyone's thoughts/feelings on the matter. What do YOU define as hammering? Where should (or shouldn't) the line be drawn?
If you believe that public argueing is wrong all together, and that everything in the public eye should be "positive" and that no one should ever say anything negative or even questioning about someone else, then in what other ways, do you suggest, that we "check and balance" each other?
Sorry for the long post, but due to work constraints I really won't be able to address this thread until next week sometime. However, I value all of your opinions and input, and I would be happy to address the thread (and any questions you may have for me) next week.
I look foward to hearing your response.
Thanks!
:cheers:
PAUL
:asian: