Im new to this forum and also to Kenpo...so discount everything I say by 50% I went into Kenpo with my eyes open about the controversy. I knew there was decades of stuff between the 2 organizations I wouldn't fully know the truth on...and quite frankly don't care about. I do know the I love studying and practicing kenpo. I did Taekwondo as a teenager...after 3 years of hopping up and down, kicking the ceiling and sparring I got bored. Then I discovered kenpo...such amazing focus on self defence. I am still fascinated with the unique blend of circular and linear techniques...I'm testing for Green belt in a couple of months. So, my point. It is unfortunate to see so much bad blood between disciples of the organizations, but not surprising. Go to any other martial art forum and you'll see the same thing...wing chun, karate, aikido, H2H systems...everyone is comparing, criticizing, splintering...for crying out loud martial artists are and have been as bad as church denominations who splinter off everytime they don't like something. However, I would like to clear up one point about Al Tracy. I get the feeling that many Parker students believe Tracy's rejects all they do. Some people in Tracy's may...I'm not sure. Reading his website I would say that Al himself believes there is legitimate and illegitimate Parker's Kenpo... on his website, his comments on Ed Parker and EPAK came across to me to be very respectful. He talks about Ed in the same respectful tone as others do. He does respect one type of Parkers kenpo... the 24 technique system...Here is a quote from his website where he sells Parkers 5 volume masterpiece: "I am assuming that you want American Kenpo as developed and taught by Great Grand Master Edmund K. Parker! The same American Kenpo he wrote about in his five volume set Infinite Insights Into Kenpo - between 1982-1987! Volume 5 is critical because in Volume 5 - Ed Parker laid out the minimum requirements for each belt level: Yellow belt thru 3rd Black!" He is clearly critical of anyone teaching less than that-I don't have the knowledge to know if his criticism is valid, but you should know of his respect for that piece of American Kenpo history.