Wing Woo Gar
Senior Master
I think it’s a ratio that changes depending on the skill level of the participants and the real or imagined goal of the activity. Do enough fighting or hard sparring and you will certainly be injured at some point. Whether the goal is to learn or to win can certainly change the result of any exercise. Both are necessary ingredients that need the moderation, experience, and guidance of a competent instructor. The success of the student will vary wildly based on both the quality and the quantity of all these factors. Personal goals and individual psyches will weigh in differently at different points of progression in the training. I hope I’m making sense at this point. I’m not trying to argue against anything necessarily, just giving an opinion based on my experiences.I'm not saying that fighting or full contact sparring is necessary. I'm saying sparring to win occasionally is necessary.
And like I said, this isn't just for fighting. If I play chess, I can spend a ton of time trying out new strategies, but if I don't make earnest attempts to win occasionally, I'll be lacking.
If I play basketball, I can drill rebounding in one-on-ones, focus on defense, try my 3 point, whatever. But if I don't try to win, I won't know when to do the right thing to maximize that, and I won't have the confidence to rely on what's my actual strength, when I enter an actual game.
None of that has to do with fighting, risking injury, or being abused. and I wasn't replying to anything stating that either, I was replying to jowga saying 2. Make Mistakes / Learn -> Win. is preferred over 1. Win/lose -> Learn, implying that this is a binary choice, not a spectrum.