Grey Eyed Bandit
Master of Arts
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gmunoz said:I don't care how experienced a person is or how knowledgeable they think they are if their attitude sucks or they make me feel less than. I'm completely open to advice of more experienced folks, but not from those with nasty elitist attitudes. It's all in their attitude - whether they intend it or not - it's the way they're perceived by others.
Kalifallen said:Anyway, isn't this a forum? A place you can go to be corrected and ask questions so you can learn.
It would be impossible for me to answer this without knowing more about the type of fight. You might as well ask when you can throw a left jab in a fight.Kalifallen said:Kreth,
When can you cross-step in a fight? I sadly don't see any room to.
I'm not saying people shouldn't listen to you. I'm saying you should avoid phrasing your opinions as fact, especially given your lack of real training.I mean, I'd just hate it to see people say, "Don't believe the novice's or the lower kyu's. The higher kyu's and the black belts you should listen to because they have been learning that art longer."
Don Roley said::-offtopic
But as long as it seems that is ok, let me just state that I have seen pretty bad examples of attitude from people who know nothing- and they are the ones to most often complain about other people's attitude.
If I had a dime for every time some person came across laying down the law, only to have all of his statements shot down with fact and logic and then complain about how the other side is snotty.... I could take a quick trip to the states.
When you talk about opinions, you state your opinions. The opinion of a medical doctor on a patient' condition tends to carry a bit more weight than an intern or a layman. Sometimes the background of a person does make a difference when trying to determine whether to believe their opinions or not.
And then there are facts. And facts are not really as debatable as opinions. And in the case of this thread, cross stepping is not only used for stealth training in the Bujinkan- it is also an important move in techniques from the Koto ryu and the like. And there are other arts that use similar techniques. I have already mentioned, and provided video links, for other arts such as Silat that use cross stepping. This is a fact. Now if you want to say you think that everyone who has ever done cross stepping in all the varied arts it appears in is wrong and you are right then we are dealing with opinion. If there are no facts to bring to the table and let others see for themselves, and people cannot be confinced by the logic of your arguments, then the background of the person may be an issue.
Could it be that the lower ranked practitioners aren't intending to state opinions as fact and that the upper ranks have a preconceived notion and tendency to read it as such?Kreth said:It would be impossible for me to answer this without knowing more about the type of fight. You might as well ask when you can throw a left jab in a fight.
I'm not saying people shouldn't listen to you. I'm saying you should avoid phrasing your opinions as fact, especially given your lack of real training.
Jeff
Well, I dunno... how does this read to you?:gmunoz said:Could it be that the lower ranked practitioners aren't intending to state opinions as fact and that the upper ranks have a preconceived notion and tendency to read it as such?
To me, it looks like someone speaking as an authority on the subject.Kalifallen said:Cross step technique is ONLY used when stealthing.
Explanation, please?gmunoz said:Fair enough. I've seen and used crossing legs even in a standard Juji no Kata
Good point. However, when I read his profile and he admits he has no rank, then it helps me filter his statements and not get too "jiggy" when he posts. It's pretty easy. The posts are kinda cute actually.Kreth said:Well, I dunno... how does this read to you?:
To me, it looks like someone speaking as an authority on the subject.
Jeff
Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what everyone is referring to on crossing legs. In Kenjutsu Juji no Kata, a standard downward cut from Dai Jo dan no Kamae, one may cross their legs while taking a forward step and cutting horizontally across the neck. ie. they can evade or block the downward cut and a horizontal cut is followed up in response.Nimravus said:Explanation, please?
Sounds to me like kocho gaeshi?gmunoz said:Your opponent strikes downward at you. You evade his strike by taking a right step backward while cutting down on his wrist. If that, for whatever reason, didn't end the fight, then one can use that same right leg they stepped back with and cross their left leg cutting horizontally across the neck.