Bok Lei Tat was harder to find.... be this the Bok Lei Tat of which you speak
http://bltstore.com/main/product_info.php?cPath=54&products_id=1647
Bugger... Weapons caught me on the firewall... I'll check on it at home.
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Bok Lei Tat was harder to find.... be this the Bok Lei Tat of which you speak
http://bltstore.com/main/product_info.php?cPath=54&products_id=1647
A couple of students and I have these exact pair you're asking about. They also came from WLE. They are great swords for demos and training. They are not sharp, and pretty sturdy. We use them for training against rattan, bamboo, and hardwood weapons. They can take a good bit of punishment. The tangs are very sturdy also. From experience, I can say you can't go wrong with purchasing a pair, as long as you use them for training, demos, and even decoration.
Bugger... Weapons caught me on the firewall... I'll check on it at home.
Here is another site with butterfly swords, just for comparison puposes.
http://www.traditionalfilipinoweapons.com/Chinese Butterfly Swords.html
www.kriscutlery.com ... they are one of the few "butterfly sword" purveyors. I'd send you the direct link but the firewall/Net Nannie frowns on "weapons". Wing Lam's custom ones are really nice & also are "butterfly sword" design. They're more expensive by about double than the Kris Cutlery ones & I can't justify the price difference.
I've got a nice heavy set of "melon chopper" bladed ones (most commonly found) I got from Bak Li Tat or Bok Li Po... I forget which. Great for training & I don't worry about the blades because they look like a stainless or plated at least.
I'll look at home for more info & get back to you.
Nice. What is the shape of the blade? Does it have a thicker spine that tapers down to the edge, or is it flat like sheetmetal?
these Kris Cutlery knives are also very nice. 5160 steel is excellent blade steel, it's the same stuff used on flat springs for truck suspensions. Very tough, very durable, carries a good edge. Very real.
Nah... the spine is uniform from tip to hook... maybe 1/8 an inch? It's about as wide as this letter - r - on the spine.
Those from the Filipino site are spot on!!!! THOSE are Cantonese Dip Do.
5160 isn`t stainless, but it does make a good knife. Like they said it`s a spring steel so it has good shock absorbing ability, but it also holds a good edge. I really like the knives from Filipino Weapons, the shape is pretty traditional, they could take a good edge, and the price isn`t obscene. The 18" blade might be a bit long for ME, but that`s a personal choice. I like a long blade, but I`ve heard Wing Chun guys say a shorter blade allows them to do certain moves inside the lead arm with a greater margin of personal safety. It all comes down to what you like.
You might want to consider getting a "real" pair you can cut with and a "fake" pair for forms work. If nothing else that would let you have a pair to do partner work with that wouldn`t need to have the edges blunted. (You may be VERY, VERY good, but I still wouldn`t do a 2-man form with you if you had live blades. I value all my peices and parts.)
Could you tell me a bit about the shape of the blade? A lot of the cheaper ones have blades that look like they were simply cut out of sheet metal. Do these look like that??
Do they have a thicker spine that tapers down to the edge?
aye, I was thinking that more than one pair might become necessary.
Gotta have those live blades for the coming Zombie Apocalypse, you know...
aye, I was thinking that more than one pair might become necessary.
Gotta have those live blades for the coming Zombie Apocalypse, you know...
Blades have deep significance in the history and culture of the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia...kind of like firearms do in hours. Many types of blades, many types of uses. For example, you can find some agrarian blades with no hilt; they were made to be swung and not thrusted. Due to the nature of so many different blades, many FMAists such as Bill Bednarick in Michigan make custom trainers on the side, usually from a tracing of a live blade. Some of these guys are very good, and pride themselves on reproducing the balance and heft as accurately as they can.
Where you are quite a good craftsman yourself, it may even be possible you to make a tracing yourself, and work with an FMAist to make a nice aluminium trainer out of the blade set that you decide upon...should that appeal to you. I seem to recall that you built a gorgeous sword of your own sometime back, it may even be possible to get someone to make just the aluminium part for you and leave the handle work to you.
Just throwing ideas out there.
Fong Ting Lance for Zombies... don't want those bastards that close to me if we're out of ammo for long guns ...
http://www.wle.com/media/W324-T.jpg
Oh I'd reach for dip do quick just because of ease of use/natural use from CLF... but I don't want the zombie bastards near me though. They squish & squirt & other un-nice things when damaged. I want no zombie goo on me as I chop them down. Dip do are a little lacking on the distancing. Maybe a pair of machetes... but Fong Ting or 3 Point 2 Blade or the like for distance fighting.
And I'm sorry to say... but if the rag-taggers with me can't keep up & pull their load... well... they're always good for decoys if I'm not related to them. :shooter:
OH DAMN!!!! Those might be the ones!
thank you!
My pleasure. I have 3 of Ron's swords and am also a Kun Tao student of his. If you do decide to order them tell him Marty mentioned the site to you.
You can go to youtube and check out some of his cutting demos.
Good luck with whatever vendor you go with.
Marty