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This is something I've wanted to do years ago already. I'm also a software developer. Maybe we should partner up?I'm a solo software developer trying to develop a new tool for teaching Taekwondo poomsae using Augmented Reality. Here's a video of the app so far. I'd love feedback from this community!
It's available to download for free at PozeAR
It was not spam. I am trying to develop a product that is directly relevant to this community and I was asking for feedback. I appreciate all the comments so far.
I appreciate the idea. I am one of those who don't believe it is possible to teach this way. There is no substitute for a trained instructor watching and correcting the student. Everyone wants there to be, but there isn't. My opinion.It was not spam. I am trying to develop a product that is directly relevant to this community and I was asking for feedback. I appreciate all the comments so far.
I agree. I think the VR/AR thing could be used as a supplemental aid for home practice. Something for the student to use when they're not at the club.I appreciate the idea. I am one of those who don't believe it is possible to teach this way. There is no substitute for a trained instructor watching and correcting the student. Everyone wants there to be, but there isn't. My opinion.
What did you think of my idea to work together and build that program?
Do you have any martial arts experience?
Trained martial artists can extract value from books, photos, videos, and so on. I suppose VR could work as well. The problem is everyone wants to learn martial arts without training. It's like everyone wants to have big muscles without lifting weights. It doesn't work like that.I agree. I think the VR/AR thing could be used as a supplemental aid for home practice. Something for the student to use when they're not at the club.
I actually created a program back in 2016 that essentially recreates the class environment for students to train at home, and was fully customizable. It's not AR, but then nobody had AR in 2016. The idea (even back then) was to eventually bring it to the AR area and go all the way with it. Maybe that's what I'll do with it after all. I'll have some availability once I finish shooting my red belt videos.
Trained martial artists can extract value from books, photos, videos, and so on. I suppose VR could work as well. The problem is everyone wants to learn martial arts without training. It's like everyone wants to have big muscles without lifting weights. It doesn't work like that.
However, one thing I have learned over the years is that it doesn't matter anyway. The people who seek training without actually training won't even bother with their books, videos, or (I presume) VR. They'll buy them and ignore them. They're about wish-fulfillment, not actually doing the work it takes. Say 90% or so. Just my opinion.
I'm actually in his target demographic, and don't fit your criteria. I don't do taekwondo, but I have VR, and I'd absolutely be willing to pay to watch people use VR/AR to teach taekwondo forms. I wouldn't actually learn the forms from them, but just having an interest in what they are, that would be better than watching on youtube. So the actual target is people who A) have a way for AR, and B) have an interest in watching TKD forms on youtube. Still not a big market, but I think it's big enough he could make something from it.I think it's an interesting tool, but it's also such a niche market you're targeting. You're looking for people who:
For example (and yes I'm picking on you a little bit) if @isshinryuronin has a VR headset, he's still not in your demographic because he doesn't see it as useful.
- Do Taekwondo
- Have VR
- Want to use AR for Taekwondo
I'm not in your demographic because I don't have a VR headset.
I have VR. I'd absolutely be willing to watch people use VR/AR to teach taekwondo forms
Got meta quest 2. I'll give it a look tomorrow. Like I mentioned, I have experience in a ton of martial arts, but not TKD, so that might color my experience a bit.Awesome! If you have a Meta Quest 2, 3 or Pro, the app is available now in the Meta App Store (search for PozeAR). It's free.
If you get chance to try it, I'd love your feedback.
That's a bit tricky, because there's multiple styles of each karate/kung fu option. Karate's got shotokan, isshinryu, goju, okinawan kenpo, and I'm sure others. Each will have their own form set, so you'd have to specify what style you're doing. Kung fu has literally thousands of styles encompassed in that."there were kung fu and karate options that were locked" - I am trying to develop a general-purpose tool for martial arts. I am starting with Taekwondo, since that is what I know. If successful, I hope to find and record experts from those other styles too.
Thank you so much for trying it.
Of particular interest to me is the concept of 'muscle memory'. I believe that if you progress through all the levels (1-8) of a pattern, you will find your body remembers the pattern much quicker (say, 45 minutes) than normal (several days), since you have been practising it 'from your perspective' from the outset. I believe this subconsciously short-cuts the traditional approach of watching others and then trying to translate their movements to yourself.
Again, I've no interest in learning TKD (if a TKD school opened next door to me for free, I might not attend), and wouldn't consider this learning it. But in terms of learning the forms, yeah I'll give it a go. This will be from the perspective of someone who's never received training in TKD, but has decades of training in other martial arts. At the end, I might take a video to post on here and have people evaluate it.If you could time yourself doing levels 1-8, and then afterwards see if you 'know' the pattern without wearing the headset, that would be fantastic.