why is ninjistu confused w/kungfu???

[trueaspirer]

In a lot of TV shows and movies, people seem to think that nunjitsu and kung fu are the same thing, melding them together in some kind of pseudo-style. Why? It should be obvious to anyone, even someone undeucated in ma that they are not one and the same, they're not even from the same country!:idunno:

 

[mantis]

In a lot of TV shows and movies, people seem to think that nunjitsu and kung fu are the same thing, melding them together in some kind of pseudo-style. Why? It should be obvious to anyone, even someone undeucated in ma that they are not one and the same, they're not even from the same country!:idunno:

arent they the same?
1. because they're both cool-looking
2. they both fly over peoples houses
3. they both dress in black in some movies (iron monkey for example)
4. most importantly they're both chinese

 

[Kreth]

4. most importantly they're both chinese

Ok, Ashida... :uhyeah:

 

[Xue Sheng]

In a lot of TV shows and movies, people seem to think that nunjitsu and kung fu are the same thing, melding them together in some kind of pseudo-style. Why? It should be obvious to anyone, even someone undeucated in ma that they are not one and the same, they're not even from the same country!:idunno:

but but but.... they both come from countries with "nese" in them...if you are talking about the language.

aaaaaa Ninja and Kung fu both have at least one 'n' in them

Could be it is very likely that during the Qin dynasty a Chinese emissary set up a small kingdom there so he wouldn’t have to return to tell the Qin emperor he failed to find the floating islands and the elixir of life and be put to death...oops that one may actually be a historical fact...sorry about that... but I doubt the people melding Kung fu and Ninjitsu have any idea about that

I don't know why...possibly because they are idiots

 

[Robert Lee]

Anything to do with movies is a sell item. You have to keep the people interested. Just as when ninjutsu beacme popular around the early 1980s here in the uSA boom many people started teaching ninjutsu that never had1 lesson Money makes people do the weirdst things. If you study up on ninja. You find they were family clans that were trying to survive and sometimes had to steal to eat. So mystery surrounds there deeds. And for time they were a warrior class that were formidable to deal with. Today I believe tia jutsu has taken the name of ninjutsu to a more quite training Where many do not put out sighns and recruit students . you have to ask and then be excepted in as a student Those instrucors are not after the money

 

[heretic888]

In a lot of TV shows and movies, people seem to think that nunjitsu and kung fu are the same thing, melding them together in some kind of pseudo-style.

They do??

That hasn't been my observation. At least not anymore than the general confusion the public has about the martial arts.

Laterz.

 

[Cryozombie]

They do??

That hasn't been my observation. At least not anymore than the general confusion the public has about the martial arts.

Laterz.

You see it in a lot of Kung Fu movies... especially the ones called like "Blah Blah Blah Ninja" and its just a bad kung fu flick.

 

[stone_dragone]

arent they the same?
1. because they're both cool-looking
2. they both fly over peoples houses
3. they both dress in black in some movies (iron monkey for example)
4. most importantly they're both chinese

5. aren't they "both" derivatives of the same ancient Greek Orthodox church bodyguard system that was only passed down from Bishop to Alterboy in the 3rd century BC in western Kentucky...Muytaekungjutsudo? That might cause some confusion in the uninitiated.

Now where are those meds.......

 

[heretic888]

You see it in a lot of Kung Fu movies... especially the ones called like "Blah Blah Blah Ninja" and its just a bad kung fu flick.

Oh, you mean the Hong Kong B-movie industry. . .

Well, I can't really imagine any rational person taking such films as being accurate or realistic, so it doesn't strike me as that big of a deal.

Laterz.

 

[Beowulf]

I heard many of the teachers who started schools in the Iga Koga mountain regions fled or emigrated from China. But the current bujinkan form is also comprised of 6 samurai schools, so you may have to go back even further to find a connection to China with those?

Is it true that all Japanese martial arts originated in China, if you go back far enough, starting with the earliest forms of Tai Chi?

 

[heretic888]

Is it true that all Japanese martial arts originated in China, if you go back far enough, starting with the earliest forms of Tai Chi?

Nope.

 

[mantis]

5. aren't they "both" derivatives of the same ancient Greek Orthodox church bodyguard system that was only passed down from Bishop to Alterboy in the 3rd century BC in western Kentucky...Muytaekungjutsudo? That might cause some confusion in the uninitiated.

Now where are those meds.......

that makes a lot of sense actually. yeah yeah. you're right!

 

[Andrew Green]

Because when it comes to movies both involve the "silly".

Death touches, super human abilities, secret styles, old masters living in the woods with odd training methods.

They're movies, not reality, mystical nonsense reigns supreme over common sense. That's why we go and see them, to be entertained, not for history lessons. Didn't the Musketeer have very Kung Fu like action? and it was a western sword fighting movie...

Some things look good on film, both the ninja movie and the kung fu movie are basically the same genre and much of the same stuff works in both.

 

[Kinkade]

It could be that 3 of the schools of the Bujinkan are "chinese" schools (one of which with a lot of influence from Kung Fu).
I.E. bujinkan practitioners, close to the time when the art was first created, travelled to China to train in martial arts over there, what they learnt they took back to Japan and make it better and more efficient.

The same as the Japanese industries in modern times, they take preexisting technology from other countries, bring it back, intergrate it with their own, make it smaller, more powerful, and in my oppinion, much better.

 

[stone_dragone]

Uhm, ok.

 

[Logan]

In the 60s there was a karate/Judo "boom", in the 70s Kung fu, in the 80s Ninjutsu....

Questionable practioners of styles, most noticably in western countries, took advantage of the trend to gain popularity. Non-martial artists, particularly at the time, did not know the difference between styles - especially these "new" mystical-sounding secrets....- so they were easily swayed and taken advantage of.

Alot of known frauds today began with karate. They taught this as karate until Kung fu became popular,(at which point they changed the name), and then similarly when the ninjas popped along. It was what was "cool" at the time... A bit generalistic but you get the point.

Also, experienced movie choreographers for fight scenes would have been faced with having to draft fight scenes for popular styles of the day without the time, inclination, or access to knowledge to make it "real". It was for entertainment after all.