Heh, I thought I was pretty clear. None of it makes any sense.
---Ok. I'll concede that JP! Much of it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either! Hendrik has not been the best at presenting his ideas in the forums over time. The story has shifted one direction and another several times and I can't keep up with it. Hendrik is certainly guilty of exaggerating or over-emphasizing to make his points. Saying things like everyone else doing Wing Chun was missing key elements and were therefore ineffective certainly did not win him any friends! ;-) But I was referring specifically to that clip that Ron seemed to think was some grand revelation of some sort, while I thought it was pretty straight-forward.
Hendrik trains for a few years in Cho Family WC some 30 years ago (which now we find out from Cho family he wasn't as much of an 'insider' as he would have had us believe).
---What? You believe all that crap from Stephen Choe? He posts in all the forums what is supposed to be a transcript from his conversation with Hendrik's Si Mo where she didn't know who he was to try and say that Hendrik was lying about being a student of Chung Choi. Then Sergio provided a screenshot of a text conversation Stephen had with Hendrik where he tells Hendrik that not only did his Si Mo remember him, but so did other members of the family. And to top it all off, his Si Mo remembered a Dit Da Jow that Hendrik shared with her that was really good and wanted to know if Stephen could get the recipe for her! So this Stephen character has some serious credibility issues! The fact that Hendrik may not have kept in close touch with his Sifu's family over a 30 year period is kind of irrelevant.
Then he claims on several different occasions on KFO that his WC is missing something like 50% of the info from what was taught by Yik Kam back in the 1850's (using some time machine we can only assume!). So, he then goes off on a quest to 'reconstruct' it by looking into a bunch of non-WC arts & lineages via on-line forums, books, clips, obscure old scrolls & new clippings, etc and mixes in this stuff - which turns out to be some general-level info from these non-WC lineages into his WC. And then he comes back claims he's reconstructed the lost half YK WC Holy Grail and has
somehow 'found' (made up?) all of the lost Yik Kam teachings from 150 years ago!!
---I didn't keep up with all the twists and turns. But it seems to me the bottom-line was his attempt to "unlock" and interpret those Kuen Kit he is always talking about. So he researched many sources. He felt what he discovered added quite a bit to the understanding of his Siu Nim Tao form that may have been "forgotten" over time. I don't know if that is true or not. But that's how I understand the story. I'm probably leaving a lot out though!
But then also claims it's all from his sifu in cho family (yik kam) teaching to make it legit
---Well, he did learn the form and the Yik Kam "core" from his Sifu. How he now interprets it and where he has gone with it might be his own. But it doesn't change where he comes from. Besides, we know that this is a VERY common thing in traditional Chinese circles. Even if you make your own innovations, you don't take credit yourself...you attribute it to your sifu or an ancestor out of respect. That's what confuses so much of the historical research in trying to find exactly WHAT came from WHO in various lineages.
in some weird last-ditch effort of desperation to connect this stuff to Cho family, he even recently made a video showing some signed letter from his sifu from 30 YEARS ago giving him permission to teach whatever it is he learned way back then.
---That wasn't a recent thing. He has showed that letter in the past as well. It is a letter from his Sifu authorizing him to teach. Its like have an instructor certificate in modern terms. So it is important. Why wouldn't he show it to prove that he was a legitimate student of Chung Choe? Don't you have a HFY certificate to show should anyone question your legitimate connection to Garrett Gee?
Has nothing to do with teaching this new magical concoction - which again, he only started piecing together recently. All of which cho family has always stated, and recently restated with authority, has nothing to do with Cho Family WC as handed down to them by Yik Kam.
---I could be wrong, but as far as I know, Hendrik has not changed the choreography of the SNT form as taught to him by his Sifu. He has worked and refined the biomechanics that is at the center of what he does.
But now Hendrik is playing like he wants nothing to do with
them because they mix in some CLF teachings?? But then why bust out those old letters if he wants nothing to do with them? LOL
---Nothing to LOL about as far as I can see. Have you seen the smear campaign that they have launched recently on multiple forums? I wouldn't want anything to do with them either! They have basically kicked him out of the lineage, so why shouldn't he announce he is no longer maintaining any affiliation with them? He has taken what his Sifu taught him, eliminated the non-Wing Chun elements, and expanded his understanding of the biomechanics and application of what he learned. I don't see anything wrong with that. I think his Wing Chun IS different from the Ban Chung Wing Chun now being taught by Ku Sifu and his group. But at its core is still what he learned from Chung Choi Sifu.
Yeah, I don't get any of it. And no offence, I don't think you are going to be able to clear things up for me here.
---You're probably right! I'm not sure I've cleared up for myself! ;-) And I am somewhat sure that Hendrik would probably disagree with most of what I've said here....if he wasn't banned. Hendrik makes a habit of disagreeing with most of what I say, even when I'm trying to back him up! So yeah....why back him up you ask? Just crazy I guess. ;-)
And honestly, I think too much time is spent on this guy. He left this forum, he's left a lot of others. So let's just let him go and talk about something more constructive with the people that
are here
---Yes. Good suggestion! What do you want to talk about?
