TAM QUI - ancient vietnamese martial art

[TAM QUI]

http://www.tamqui.com

Tam Qui Khi Kong Federation


The History of the beginning…
This method is rooted in great antiquity, in those times when human life cost nothing. There was no time for sorting out relationship or for competitions. In a combat the one who had survived continued living. In those ancient times Vietnam waged constant wars with China and within Vietnam there were never ending internecine strives. It was impossible to survive being alone. That is why people lived there making big families or clans, therefore withstood continual dangers. There were certain methods of physical and psychological trainings within every family. Such a training of fighters began from the very early age. By the age of twenty a man became a perfect fighter possessing the secret technique of the Martial Arts. Those warriors alone could withstand lots of enemies. Where was the secret? In what way such warriors were trained? Vietnamese culture during many long centuries was influenced by two great civilizations – Chinese and Indian. The appearance and spreading of Chan Buddhism (Thien), the embodiment of assimilation of these two cultures, served its crucial role in the developing of Vietnamese ancient spiritual culture. Got such valuable heritage from two ancient spiritual cultures ancestors of Vietnamese were able to absorb all the best of the spiritual, medicinal and battle systems and to transform these systems constructively taking into account the national peculiar qualities of their region. Absolutely new methods were occurred as a result, methods of the developing of every aspect in human nature, starting with physiology, mentality, energy finishing by spiritual essence of the human. Tam Qui Khi-Kong is one of such methods.
Unfortunately, the name of the founder of the school was lost, the only thing remained is a legend: “Long long time ago there was a village. People in the village constantly worked to feed themselves. In those times customs were wild, there were lots of bandits who outrageously did violence to peaceful villagers. So, once some bandits came to a village. The chieftain of the gang made the villagers give him the whole harvest and the cattle. Villagers tried to stand the bandits, but the forces were unequal. The only people who survived in the whole village were an old man and a boy. The old man called up the boy and told him: “Far away in the jungles a deserted temple is. Go there, people say, this is a miraculous place, you may find the answer of how we should live now”. The boy roamed in the jungles for long while looking for the temple, used roots for food, slept on trees not to be caught by wild animals. And one day he saw that deserted temple twined around with lianas. Absolute desolation was everywhere inside the temple, it seemed that nobody had appeared here for a long time. He had to clean everything out, to rake away garbage and dust until he saw beautiful images of Arhats, majestic statues of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas. He got carried away by the work so much that he lost count of time. Perhaps, he was dreaming but one day Arhats began to speak to him: “we know what’s happened with you. You have a kind heart, and we will help you. We’ll train you a wonderful technique of fight and teach you the method by which you will be able to touch your inner nature. This method is called Tam Qui (three jewels). Thanks to this method you’ll be able to defeat bandits and train people to protect themselves from enemies and evil spirits as well”. From that very moment every night the boy got the magical knowledge from Arhats and the whole following day carefully learnt everything by heart. After a few years he changed into a warrior with supernatural abilities. Then Arhats conveyed him the deepest essence of method: “there’s nothing much better to keep body and soul together for reaching longevity than discipline of the body. The secret of the curbing of the body is in the concentration of the energy inside Khi-hai, the place situated in the bottom of the stomach. When the vital energy condenses in this point, an elixir appears. This elixir makes the body appearance become solid and stronger and the spirit full and rich. If the spirit is full and rich the life will be long. It should be known that the elixir is placed nowhere but within your body. The most crucial thing is to make vital energy of the heart flow down into the lower part of the body in a way to fill the elixir in Khi-hai centre. Oh, Worthy Man, if you follow hard this teaching which we are giving you and never deviate from it, thus the teaching will let you keep the strength and health during all your life. And if you prove peculiar persistence you will be able to save and even increase your abilities that you have gained from us”. His strength was so great that only seeing him was enough and robbers always ran away. He lived a long life, only chosen ones he taught Tam Qui” That is the longstanding legend about the school.
The emblem of the school is a wheel with eight spokes that symbolizes eightfold path:
1. Correct understanding, views, estimation and opinions.
2. Correct aims, motives, plans, argumentation and decisions.
3. Correct using of speech.
4. Correct behavior, deeds and acts.
5. Correct attitude to the living; fulfillment of the well-defined role in life, which should be unselfish, sensitive and useful.
6. Correct efforts aimed at kind performances.
7. Correct intellectual activity: studying and teaching.
8. Correct contemplation following faithfully the fixation of the mind, the contemplation, which let intuition and insight become apparent.

In the middle of the wheel there is three unity symbolizing three treasures: Buddha, Dharma and Sangha. Such symbolism is typical in the whole Buddhism for every country and time. Besides, the image of this symbol can be met almost in every nation living on the Planet. Tam Qui method places high emphasis on a person invigoration as well as a battle aspect; this feature is typical for most of the Vietnamese systems. It is considered that first of all the perfect health is needed to become a magnificent warrior, and this idea is rather difficult to dispute. Strengthening of viscera, tendon-ligament apparatus and musculoskeletal system is of a great importance. The same significant importance has mental and ethical training of a student. Moral purity is the core of the successful development of a strong person.

 

[blindsage]

Biting my tongue....biting my tongue...biting my..(OW! that hurts!)

 

[Blindside]

I think I saw this movie.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Biting my tongue....biting my tongue...biting my..(OW! that hurts!)

I wish I could but..... it hurts to much

Tam Qui Khi Kong Federation

I'm am sorry but do you have a source I can see, other than yourself, that talks about Tam Qui Khi-Kong becuase I can't find one. And at this point, to me, Tam Qui Khi Kong sounds like a bad translation of Tan Tui and Qigong,

You might want to start here and here and think about what you wrote previously

As to Chan Buddhism it is pretty much a combination of Mahayana Buddhism and Taoism which became Chan Buddhism and later Zen Buddhism... but that is not exactly what went on in Vietnam. Vietnam Buddhism is a bit different.

Tam Qui Khi Kong Federation


The History of the beginning…
This method is rooted in great antiquity, in those times when human life cost nothing. There was no time for sorting out relationship or for competitions. In a combat the one who had survived continued living. In those ancient times Vietnam waged constant wars with China

You might want to look at this

Zhu Di assumed the throne as the Yongle Emperor (1402-1424); his reign is universally viewed by scholars as a "second founding" of the Ming Dynasty

Yongle had conquered Vietnam in 1407, but Ming troops were pushed out in 1428 with significant costs to the Ming treasury; in 1431 the new Lê Dynasty of Vietnam was recognized as an independent tribute state.

Where was the secret? In what way such warriors were trained? Vietnamese culture during many long centuries was influenced by two great civilizations – Chinese and Indian. The appearance and spreading of Chan Buddhism (Thien), the embodiment of assimilation of these two cultures, served its crucial role in the developing of Vietnamese ancient spiritual culture. Got such valuable heritage from two ancient spiritual cultures ancestors of Vietnamese were able to absorb all the best of the spiritual, medicinal and battle systems and to transform these systems constructively taking into account the national peculiar qualities of their region.

And this

Buddhsim in Vietnam

Buddhism came to Vietnam as early as the second century CE through the North from central Asia and via Southern routes from India. Mahayana Buddhism first spread from China to Vietnam's Red River Delta region around 300 BC. Theravada Buddhism arrived from India into the southern Mekong Delta region many years later, between 300-600 AD. Buddhism as practiced by the ethnic Vietnamese is mainly of the Mahayana school, although some ethnic minorities (such as the Khmer Krom in the southern Delta region of Vietnam) adhere to the Theravada school.

Buddhist practice in Vietnam differs from that of other Asian countries, and does not contain the same institutional structures, hierarchy, or sanghas that exist in other traditional Buddhist settings. It has instead grown from a symbiotic relationship with Taoism, Chinese spirituality, and the indigenous Vietnamese religion, with the majority of Buddhist practitioners focusing on devotional rituals rather than meditation.

Absolutely new methods were occurred as a result, methods of the developing of every aspect in human nature, starting with physiology, mentality, energy finishing by spiritual essence of the human. Tam Qui Khi-Kong is one of such methods.
Unfortunately, the name of the founder of the school was lost, the only thing remained is a legend: “Long long time ago there was a village. People in the village constantly worked to feed themselves. In those times customs were wild, there were lots of bandits who outrageously did violence to peaceful villagers. So, once some bandits came to a village. The chieftain of the gang made the villagers give him the whole harvest and the cattle. Villagers tried to stand the bandits, but the forces were unequal. The only people who survived in the whole village were an old man and a boy. The old man called up the boy and told him: “Far away in the jungles a deserted temple is. Go there, people say, this is a miraculous place, you may find the answer of how we should live now”. The boy roamed in the jungles for long while looking for the temple, used roots for food, slept on trees not to be caught by wild animals. And one day he saw that deserted temple twined around with lianas. Absolute desolation was everywhere inside the temple, it seemed that nobody had appeared here for a long time. He had to clean everything out, to rake away garbage and dust until he saw beautiful images of Arhats, majestic statues of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas. He got carried away by the work so much that he lost count of time. Perhaps, he was dreaming but one day Arhats began to speak to him: “we know what’s happened with you. You have a kind heart, and we will help you. We’ll train you a wonderful technique of fight and teach you the method by which you will be able to touch your inner nature. This method is called Tam Qui (three jewels). Thanks to this method you’ll be able to defeat bandits and train people to protect themselves from enemies and evil spirits as well”. From that very moment every night the boy got the magical knowledge from Arhats and the whole following day carefully learnt everything by heart. After a few years he changed into a warrior with supernatural abilities. Then Arhats conveyed him the deepest essence of method: “there’s nothing much better to keep body and soul together for reaching longevity than discipline of the body. The secret of the curbing of the body is in the concentration of the energy inside Khi-hai, the place situated in the bottom of the stomach. When the vital energy condenses in this point, an elixir appears. This elixir makes the body appearance become solid and stronger and the spirit full and rich. If the spirit is full and rich the life will be long. It should be known that the elixir is placed nowhere but within your body. The most crucial thing is to make vital energy of the heart flow down into the lower part of the body in a way to fill the elixir in Khi-hai centre. Oh, Worthy Man, if you follow hard this teaching which we are giving you and never deviate from it, thus the teaching will let you keep the strength and health during all your life. And if you prove peculiar persistence you will be able to save and even increase your abilities that you have gained from us”. His strength was so great that only seeing him was enough and robbers always ran away. He lived a long life, only chosen ones he taught Tam Qui” That is the longstanding legend about the school.

This is pretty much the stuff of just about every creation myth in Chinese Martial arts, except it doesn’t mention some mythical monk (Taoist or Buddhist) in a cave Zhang San Feng or Yue Fei, but you did throw in an Arhat that pretty much took care of the mystical bits.

The emblem of the school is a wheel with eight spokes that symbolizes eightfold path:
1. Correct understanding, views, estimation and opinions.
2. Correct aims, motives, plans, argumentation and decisions.
3. Correct using of speech.
4. Correct behavior, deeds and acts.
5. Correct attitude to the living; fulfillment of the well-defined role in life, which should be unselfish, sensitive and useful.
6. Correct efforts aimed at kind performances.
7. Correct intellectual activity: studying and teaching.
8. Correct contemplation following faithfully the fixation of the mind, the contemplation, which let intuition and insight become apparent.

The Eight fold path
1. Right view
2. Right intention
3. Right speech
4. Right action
5. Right livelihood
6. Right effort
7. Right mindfulness
8. Right concentration

Which leads to

9. Right knowledge
10. Right liberation

In the middle of the wheel there is three unity symbolizing three treasures: Buddha, Dharma and Sangha. Such symbolism is typical in the whole Buddhism for every country and time. Besides, the image of this symbol can be met almost in every nation living on the Planet. Tam Qui method places high emphasis on a person invigoration as well as a battle aspect; this feature is typical for most of the Vietnamese systems. It is considered that first of all the perfect health is needed to become a magnificent warrior, and this idea is rather difficult to dispute. Strengthening of viscera, tendon-ligament apparatus and musculoskeletal system is of a great importance. The same significant importance has mental and ethical training of a student. Moral purity is the core of the successful development of a strong person.

Again look here

 

[wushuguy]

from that website:

There is a major difference between Tam Qui and other martial arts schools. The method used in Tam Qui school is not based on competition. The blows and strikes are delivered to painful spots by different parts of the body (fingers, elbows, knees, head) or by improvised weapons (a stick, a stone, a pen, a bunch of keys, etc.). Besides strikes and blows, a lot of attention is devoted to throws, ankle trips and holds.

Sounds a lot like other martial arts I know, eg. kali, various kung fu, etc.

 

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[Tommy]

Why do people make up $h!t like this? If it's a Vietnamese arts then how come the Vietnamese have never heard of it? Except for Vo Vi Nam (means Vietnamese martial arts) a majority of the MA and Qigong in Vietnam are from China, and some of them had been made into Vietnamese arts with different names.

It's also interesting that the website does not even have Vietnamese written on it. You would think since it is an ancient Vietnamese arts it'd have Vietnamese on it. Take your head out of your a$$ and go learn something else REAL!! And don't insult the Vietnamese by writing $h!t like this!!!:angry:

 

[oftheherd1]

Just found this thread. Apparently there is a Russian art which wishes to trace its roots to Vietnam with Bhuddist and Yoga thrown in. The site listed by the OP seems to be written in a Russian language of some sort. Some links seem to be about yoga, others hosted by Bhuddist sites.

When I read the OP's post, I noted his use of Tam Qui (3 jewels). Tam was unknown to me for use as a three. In fact, my first reaction with my limited Vietnamese was 8 devils. However, at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnamese_numerals I found an old, unknown to me use of tam for the number three. The only two ways I knew to indicate 3 or third, was ba and thu ba (with the proper diacritical marks of course). Now I find another. Amazing what one can learn on the modern internet. Who knew?

I cannot vouch for any good or bad points to the OP or the art he talked about. I would agree that the story seems a little fairy-tale like, just as some other MA sometimes tell to attempt to claim the oldest lienage and most mystical beginnings.

 

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[Cyriacus]

You dont need to

 

[Cyriacus]

make multiple posts, friend.

 

[Tez3]

But it does

 

[Tez3]

bump your post

 

[Tez3]

count up and make you look serious.