Snitches get stitches

[Tgace]

This is the latest news around my parts...my PD to boot.

http://www.wben.com/Tapes-Released-Between-Teachers--Dontre-Jones/17686639

Which brings to the conversation our societies attitude towards snitching, tattleing, telling, etc.

While the "gang" connotations of "Snitches get stitches" is one issue, isnt it in our common culture not to be "a tattle tale"? Who here wasn't told by their parents that it was somehow "bad" to tattle on a sibling? Who was ever given the impression that it was culturally "ok" to tell on your friends when they did something wrong?

When did we get to the point where even teachers are telling murder suspects that another student is "snitching" on them?

What is the right way to raise our children where "informing" is concerned? You would think that it would be common sense that reporting a murder would be different from telling on a friend who shoplifted a 6 pack....is it?


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[Carol]

That post is a lot to digest Tgace. It sounds like the then-accused was a high school gang banger that was made in to a bit of a celebrity with the help of some sympathetic teachers, including one who was moonlighting as a CO.

I don't know how to address the subject of informing, not even sure how to bring it up. If informing is the right thing to do, then how do you address that doing the right thing can have negative consequences such as ostracism or isolation....or worse?


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[Tgace]

Its a cluster ****. As things like this always are. One Teacher basically lets a student answer a cell call from the holding center...let the whole class say "hi" like hes some sort of hero over speaker phone then takes the phone and holds a convo with him....all during classtime and in violation of school rules. Nothing life threatening but is this the attitude a teacher should be fostering toward a student locked up awaiting trial for murder? In addition she had students sending and receiving mail to and from the offender because she knew it wouldn't "look good" to her superiors....just her students.

Another teacher was a PT screw at county lockup and was relaying messages between this kid and relatives at the school...including telling them that other offenders in lockup were on a "keepaway" list from this kid. Which the kid thought were "Snitches" awaiting testimony at his trial (the other guy was actually a witness in a second...unrelated..homicide). This teacher was also reporting gang related assaults inside the holding center to gang members in the school, which could have resulted in gang violence on the street. The County fired him from the part time job.

The third teacher talks to this kid on a students cell....during class...tells him she misses him and has his student ID on her desk to remember him. Tells him another student at the school is going to "Snitch" on him and ends by telling him she will be sending him stuff at the jail in direct opposition to PD orders to have no contact with him. But it will have no name on it so the police wont find out....who knows what she was writing to him?

People want us to solve crimes and lock offenders up and criticize us if we fail...but spread this "no snitching" ******** which makes successful prosecution difficult. It makes little sense.

When it comes to "snitching" when do you think we allowed "telling" to become looked down on culturally?

"Cowardice asks the question - is it safe? Expediency asks the question - is it politic? Vanity asks the question - is it popular? But conscience asks the question - is it right? And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular; but one must take it because it is right." -Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

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[punisher73]

No snitching is the biggest lie out there perpetuated by people who have a vested interest in someone not telling ON THEM. Every single one of them will drop a dime in a SECOND on someone else if it means getting themselves out of trouble.

But, what can we expect when we have glorified the criminal culture in this country for so long. From Billie the Kid to Al Capone to the latest and greatest in Gangster Rap. We make them into psuedo-celebrities and then wonder why our youth of today try to emulate it.

 

[Tgace]

No snitching is the biggest lie out there perpetuated by people who have a vested interest in someone not telling ON THEM. Every single one of them will drop a dime in a SECOND on someone else if it means getting themselves out of trouble.

But, what can we expect when we have glorified the criminal culture in this country for so long. From Billie the Kid to Al Capone to the latest and greatest in Gangster Rap. We make them into psuedo-celebrities and then wonder why our youth of today try to emulate it.

Exactly. Its a pity people cant differentiate between people giving information to get their *** out of legal trouble and those doing the right thing like giving police information to put a killer behind bars...even if they are not on the hook.

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