Pyong-Ahn etc.

FieldDiscipline

2nd Black Belt
Joined
Nov 24, 2006
Messages
739
Reaction score
18
Location
Great Britain
Does anyone have a list of the forms originally taught at the Chung Do Kwan, and can recommend books/vids for learning them?

I'm aware the Pyong-Ahn forms were taught, would the thing to do be to look at the pinan/heian forms in karate materials? Any others? I know the jidokwan taught some very good forms, I am interested in this information also.

Thanks.
 

howard

Brown Belt
Joined
May 12, 2004
Messages
469
Reaction score
17
I'm aware the Pyong-Ahn forms were taught, would the thing to do be to look at the pinan/heian forms in karate materials? Any others? I know the jidokwan taught some very good forms, I am interested in this information also.Thanks.
Hi,

When trained in did Ji Do Kwan some time ago, we did five Pyung Ahn forms. They clearly derive from Shotokan's five Heian kata, and are very similar to those forms.

I'm not aware of any clips of the JDK versions of these forms on the web, but you can probably find the Shotokan versions.

HTH...
 

aplonis

Orange Belt
Joined
Jan 17, 2006
Messages
88
Reaction score
2
Location
Kalamazoo MI
Here is a link to our set from WMTKD. They will be really close, if not dead on, from how we did them as far back as the 70's.

http://wmtkd.us/kalamazoo/#GUS-4

Those diagrams are from our local city's school. Other sister schools from the same org have their own documenation, with pictures and such. For example, here...

http://wmtkd.us/bob_allen/index.xml#GUS-5

Our whole org is still pretty close to CDK with some TSD influence and whatever techniques from any art that impressed our GM as effective.
 

stoneheart

Purple Belt
Joined
May 8, 2004
Messages
317
Reaction score
2
There's a video sold by the US Chung Do Kwan Association which I understand has Brenda Sell demonstrating the forms. I imagine this is a high quality resource although I have not seen it myself.

This is a fine book that I own a copy of: http://www.amazon.com/Tae-Kwon-Clas...4311061?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188530517&sr=1-2
I like the drawings very much and although not a Chung Do Kwan guy myself, I think the forms are faithful to how CDK people perform them.
 
OP
F

FieldDiscipline

2nd Black Belt
Joined
Nov 24, 2006
Messages
739
Reaction score
18
Location
Great Britain
That is useful stuff guys thanks.

Aplonis, if I put that with videos of karateka practicing heian I'm pretty sure I can work with that. Thanks!

Stoneheart, I'll be buying that book.
 

rmclain

Black Belt
Joined
Jan 20, 2005
Messages
538
Reaction score
17
Location
Arlington, Texas
Chung Do Kwan and Ji Do Kwan were primarily instructing the karate forms, such as Pyung Ahn, Bassai Tae, Chulki 1-3, etc. Most of the kwans were doing this - as a historical note. I don't have a specific list for each of those kwans.

To track down more detail on Ji Do Kwan, look to Mabuni Kenwa's lineage. Yoon Kwe-byung (early Ji Do Kwan instructor) learned from both Mabuni and Toyama Kanken. Yoon even taught bong sul hyung (Staff forms) at the Ji Do Kwan.

Lee Won-kuk (Chung Do Kwan founder) learned karate from Gichin Funakoshi in Japan. So this lineage will have forms found in a typical Shotokan dojo.

R. McLain
 

WMKS Shogun

Green Belt
Joined
Nov 2, 2006
Messages
150
Reaction score
9
Location
Martinsburg, WV
Just a thought, but Tang Soo Do still teaches the Pyung Ahn forms, as well as Bassai, Chul ki 1-3 (though they call it Nihanchi(n) ) so maybe take a look at Tang Soo Do's forms? Like I said, just a though.
 

exile

To him unconquered.
Lifetime Supporting Member
MTS Alumni
Joined
Sep 7, 2006
Messages
10,665
Reaction score
251
Location
Columbus, Ohio
So it seems. Obviously I havent done them, but to my knowledge yes. Possibly the first two in a different order though.

The difference is, in any of the `official' TKDs (so far as I know), the Pyung-Ahns aren't elements of the standard curriculum at all, so any instructors who teach them do so as part of their own personal vision of what the curriculum should be like, and conceivably will do them either in the Pinan order or in the Heian (and TSD) order (my own instructor actually teaches the Okinawan Pinans, but we are a bit of a maverick outfit anyway). In TSD, in contrast, they are core curriculum elements.
 

terryl965

<center><font size="2"><B>Martial Talk Ultimate<BR
MTS Alumni
Joined
Apr 9, 2004
Messages
41,259
Reaction score
340
Location
Grand Prairie Texas
Are the Pyong Ahn forms the same throughout TKD and TSD???


The problem that I have noticed is every single GM seems to teach these form at a very different perspective and they are all different in some way.
 

Miles

Senior Master
Joined
Oct 10, 2004
Messages
2,254
Reaction score
56
Location
Metro-Detroit
Does anyone have a list of the forms originally taught at the Chung Do Kwan, and can recommend books/vids for learning them?

I'm aware the Pyong-Ahn forms were taught, would the thing to do be to look at the pinan/heian forms in karate materials? Any others? I know the jidokwan taught some very good forms, I am interested in this information also.

Thanks.

Check out GM Duk Song Son's 2 books-Korean Karate and Black Belt Korean Karate. They show how Chung Do Kwan performed the forms.

Miles
 

Latest Discussions

Top