Obama Day in schools Sept 8th

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Let the indoctrination begin!!!

Critics Decry Obama's 'Indoctrination' Plan for Students
A suggested lesson plan that calls on students to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help President Obama following his address to students nationwide is troubling and establishes the president as a "superintendent in chief," education experts told FOXNews.com.

By Joshua Rhett Miller
FOXNews.com
Wednesday, September 02, 2009

A suggested lesson plan that calls on school kids to write letters to themselves about what they can do to help President Obama is troubling some education experts, who say it establishes the president as a "superintendent in chief" and may indoctrinate children to support him politically.

Obama will deliver a national address directly to students on Tuesday, which will be the first day of classes for many children across the country. The address, to be broadcast live on the White House's Web site, was announced in a letter to school principals last week by Education Secretary Arne Duncan.

Obama intends to "challenge students to work hard, set educational goals and take responsibility for their learning," Duncan wrote. Obama will also call for a "shared responsibility" among students, parents and educators to maximize learning potential.

But in advance of the address, the Department of Education has offered educators "classroom activities" to coincide with Obama's message.

Students in grades pre-K-6, for example, are encouraged to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."

Teachers are also given guidance to tell students to "build background knowledge about the president of the United States by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama."

During the speech, "teachers can ask students to write down key ideas or phrases that are important or personally meaningful."

For grades 7-12, the Department of Education suggests teachers prepare by excerpting quotes from Obama's speeches on education for their students to contemplate -- and ask as questions such as "Why does President Obama want to speak with us today? How will he inspire us? How will he challenge us?"

Activities suggested for after the speech include asking students "what resonated with you from President Obama's speech? What lines/phrase do you remember?"

Obama announced his intention to deliver the address to students during an interview with Damon Weaver, a middle school student from Florida who gained a following of his own last year on the campaign trail for his interviews of high-profile figures.

The Department of Education is using the president's address to kick off a video contest titled, "I Am What I Learn," in which students are invited to submit videos of up to two minutes on the importance of education in achieving their dreams.

Obama's critics say the lesson plans and the president's calls for a "supportive community" are troubling on many levels.

"In general, I don't think there's a problem if the president uses the bully pulpit to tell kids to work hard, study hard and things like that. But there are some troubling hints in this, both educationally and politically," said Neal McCluskey, associate director of Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom.

Among the concerns, McCluskey said, is the notion that students who do not support Obama or his educational policies will begin the school year "behind the eight ball," or somehow academically trailing their peers.

"It essentially tries to force kids to say the president and the presidency is inspiring, and that's very problematic," McCluskey said. "It's very concerning that you would do that."

Parents of public school students would also have to pay for that "indoctrination," regardless of their political background, he said.

"That's the fundamental problem. They could easily be funding the indoctrination of their children."

Frederick Hess, director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative think tank, said the suggested lesson plans cross the line between instruction and advocacy.

"I don't think it's appropriate for teachers to ask students to help promote the president's preferred school reforms and policies," Hess said. "It very much starts to set up the president as a superintendent in chief."

Amid the debate on the federal government's level of involvement on issues like health care and others, Hess said, "There's a lot of people" on both sides of the political spectrum who will rightfully be concerned with the president's call to action.

"It shows exactly what the problem is," he said. "This is going to open the door to all kinds of concerns."

Messages to the White House seeking comment were not immediately returned early Wednesday.

After reading the Department of Education lesson plans for the speech, McCluskey said he noticed several passages that should set off "alarm bells," including language that attempts to "glorify President Obama" in the minds of young students.

"It could be a blatantly political move," he said. "Nobody knows for sure, but it gives that impression."

McCluskey also noted that the lesson plans for young students contain suggestions to write letters to themselves on how they can help the president, but that suggestion is not in the lesson plan for middle and high schoolers -- perhaps due to the likelihood of increased political ties at that age.

"You don't want to see this coming from the president," McCluskey said. "You don't want to see this coming from the federal government."

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And if President Bush did this, the reaction would be...?
 
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My reaction would be the same....
Has nothing to do with Bush,Or Obama.
School is not the place for any agenda of any politition.

Isn't that entire Bush did it thing getting a little old?

And Bush didn't do it so your point is well pointless....
 

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Something like this could never have happened if we haven't progressed to a point in our government school indoctrination program where we are contemplating praising our dear leader.

This is just the tip of the iceberg.
 

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We should never have set-up a federal "Department of Education"...it's always been a "teach what we want or the funding gets cut off" operation.

Rightthink.
 

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Indoctrination? Really? What a crock of ****.

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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalp...ssage----scribbled-with-some-controversy.html

As one of the preparatory materials for teachers provided by the Department of Education, students had been asked to, "Write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. “
Today, after Republicans accused the White House of trying to indoctrinate school children with liberal propaganda the White House and the Department of Education changed the section to now read, "Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals.”
“We changed it to clarify the language so the intent is clear,” said White House Spokesman Tommy Vietor.
 

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I don't know, guys. Bush or Obama, this isn't all that out there. When I was a kid, we did this kind of thing all the time and it was considered a civic education. Sure, it's indoctrination of a sort. I don't disagree there. It's just not unique to Obama, and I don't think it's all that sinister.
 

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I don't know, guys. Bush or Obama, this isn't all that out there. When I was a kid, we did this kind of thing all the time and it was considered a civic education. Sure, it's indoctrination of a sort. I don't disagree there. It's just not unique to Obama, and I don't think it's all that sinister.

I agree that it doesn't much matter who is in office. I disagree on whether or not this is concerning. From the inside looking out and the outside looking in, the way kids are being herded through all of these tests and standards is very much like a conditioning program. I got out of public education when the government approved history tests were being prepped for public consumption. Those are coming down the NCLB pipe.
 

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I agree that it doesn't much matter who is in office. I disagree on whether or not this is concerning. From the inside looking out and the outside looking in, the way kids are being herded through all of these tests and standards is very much like a conditioning program. I got out of public education when the government approved history tests were being prepped for public consumption. Those are coming down the NCLB pipe.
Fair enough. I am just saying that this is not unheard of and is very much like civics classes and projects that have been taught in American public schools since the 50s.
 

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Fair enough. I am just saying that this is not unheard of and is very much like civics classes and projects that have been taught in American public schools since the 50s.

I hope it's just another piece of ******** American jingoism. That would help me sleep better at night. OTOH, we have some unprecedented differences in education now vs. the 50s. There has never been more Federal control over local school boards then there is now. There has never been a Federal curriculum that is forced on every public school child until now. What makes the jingoism of the 50s different from today is that now students just might be required to learn that in order to graduate...in order to get a piece of paper that means you can have a job and a life in this country. That kind of Federal control over our children worries me.
 

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Let`s not read too much into this.

I DON`T like Obama or his policies, but if the theme of the speech is just "work hard in school to learn to better yourself and achieve your goals" I see nothing wrong with it. However, if it contains any, repeat that ANY, policy then I think it`s grossly out of place. But I teach jr high for a living, and as long as the lesson plans and activities are just suggestions and not requirements, I think it`s basically a civics lesson.

Trust me there will be some hard core Dem teachers who`ll spend way too much time on this. But there will be just as many teachers who could care less about having anything to do with it. They`re too busy trying to get thier kids to learn thier subjects.
 

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