Is "Tams" a genuine style?

[kal]

Green Dragon studios teach a style called "Tams", but I have never heard of it.

Does anyone know what this is? Is it a real style?

 

[Flying Crane]

Is it Tam Tui? It's a long form consisting of basics repeated down a line, with various versions typically consisting of 10 rows for the Islamic version and 12 for the Buddhist version. It is a form that has been adopted by many systems, and doesn't really "belong" to any specific system. I think I have heard it suggested that it can sort of be considered its own style in a way.

 

[Xue Sheng]

In Mandarin it is Tan Tui 彈腿; springing legs.

Never heard of Tams, do you have the Chinese character for it?

 

[kal]

Sorry, no characters.

But you can see it listed here (bottom right):
http://www.greendragonkungfu.com/formsindex.asp

 

[Xue Sheng]

All I can say is if they teach all of those styles they better have one hell of a lot of sifus.

Too many styles in one place for my taste.

 

[Flying Crane]

Sorry, no characters.

But you can see it listed here (bottom right):
http://www.greendragonkungfu.com/formsindex.asp

Sounds like I am right. They list Tom Toi (Tam/n Tui) under their heading of TAMS. They list a couple of other sets under that heading as well, and I do not know what they are.

It looks like he is grouping these three sets together and claiming they make up a complete style. I've never heard of this. I've only heard of the one form, and never in the context of it "belonging" to a larger system. I've never heard of a distinct TAMS system, outside of the one form.

 

[Rabu]

There is a guy in South America who claims to teach a complete Tan Tui system.

Who knows.

For that school, apparently it is now. Regardless of other historic takes on it.

Rob

 

[kdevine]

Is it Tam Tui? It's a long form consisting of basics repeated down a line, with various versions typically consisting of 10 rows for the Islamic version and 12 for the Buddhist version. It is a form that has been adopted by many systems, and doesn't really "belong" to any specific system. I think I have heard it suggested that it can sort of be considered its own style in a way.

I have studied the Tams Tom Toi (as Green Dragon has is on their website http://www.greendragonkungfu.com) as well as the Din Dah Kuen from Green Dragon Studios. "Tom Toi" is probably related to the Buddhist version that Flying Crane is referring to as it is a 12 step straight line form of exercises. If I recall the history, these are very old forms that don't fit into a system. They seem to be taught across the north and south which makes it difficult to classify.

 

[clfsean]

*oiy*... them again...

Tan Tui (Tam Toi) 12 road is the Chin Woo (Jing Mo) version of the original 10 road Muslim style. It at one time was a stand alone style but became more of a training set for Northern Systems. Tam Toi is strictly a Northern thing. It may be practiced in the South with Northern Systems brought south, but there's not a Southern version of it.

Din Dah I'm guessing based on their terrible translations of everything there is BSL #6, Dun Da.