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[paulgalactic]

i'm now to the site, as well as the art. i have been actively practicing for 7 months now. I have no belt, I have no teacher. i have che. and I've met Che, I have also gained knoledge from 5 animal spirits; the butterfly, dragonfly,owl,cheetah,dog(sibieran huskey). I'm considering going to the shao-lin temple to train (in phoenix) yet i'm a lil discouraged in that i sent them an email introducing myself and asking if there was a way to counter the expence of school. I asked for a job because i want to eventually make the art my livelyhood. I've been given a gift from Che, and through the dragonfly, an invention, a wepon. i offered to share it with the temple even though i have yet to file for patent. I speak the truth I am a dragonlibra. I joined Martial art talk. because i'm trying to decide where i will train outside of my moms house. I'm considerind jeet kune do, ninjitsu, and also the shao-lin temple still. I would go anywhere in the world if i believed that is where i should train and had a sponsor. I think many schools are like universities they have knoledge but money becomes more important then the art and spirituallity. I don't want a free ride just some help. I have a job and will pay to study somewhere in town but Where?????????????

 

[Kacey]

First of all, welcome to MT, and happy posting.

Secondly, without a little more information (maybe narrow it down to a region within a country?) it's going to be hard for people to help you find classes. My best suggestion would be to try community colleges, recreation centers, YMCAs, etc, as the places most likely to have affordable classes; however, I don't know that you're going to be able to find a class or club that will offer you a job to pay for your training, or sponsor you, as a beginner - but I wish you luck in your quest.

 

[Swordlady]

Hi Paul, welcome to MT. You certainly came to the right place for some guidance in your quest for training.

Can you please tell us a little more about your own training? Who is Che, and what exactly are you practicing?

As Kacey just stated, it will be difficult for you to find an in-school job to help pay for your training. You said that you are living in your mom's house, so I guess that you are still in school? Maybe you can get a part-time job to help pay for classes. I'm sure there are a number of places in Phoenix for you to check out. Good luck in your search, and don't hesitate to ask for help if needed.

 

[Henderson]

Welcome!

 

[still learning]

Hello, You may want to consider do martial arts part-time and work full-time until you have more experience of the different martial arts. To give you an idea of what you may want to develop into.

Judo is always a good place to start. Learning how to fall and throws.....just my opinion here.....Aloha

 

[shesulsa]

Welcome to MartialTalk! Enjoy yourself! :ultracool

 

[Xue Sheng]

Welcome

More info would help and what or who is Che?

 

[Lisa]

Welcome and Happy Posting! :wavey:

 

[HKphooey]

Welcome to MT!

 

[kelly keltner]

welcome

 

[mantis]

i'm now to the site, as well as the art. i have been actively practicing for 7 months now. I have no belt, I have no teacher. i have che. and I've met Che, I have also gained knoledge from 5 animal spirits; the butterfly, dragonfly,owl,cheetah,dog(sibieran huskey). I'm considering going to the shao-lin temple to train (in phoenix) yet i'm a lil discouraged in that i sent them an email introducing myself and asking if there was a way to counter the expence of school. I asked for a job because i want to eventually make the art my livelyhood. I've been given a gift from Che, and through the dragonfly, an invention, a wepon. i offered to share it with the temple even though i have yet to file for patent. I speak the truth I am a dragonlibra. I joined Martial art talk. because i'm trying to decide where i will train outside of my moms house. I'm considerind jeet kune do, ninjitsu, and also the shao-lin temple still. I would go anywhere in the world if i believed that is where i should train and had a sponsor. I think many schools are like universities they have knoledge but money becomes more important then the art and spirituallity. I don't want a free ride just some help. I have a job and will pay to study somewhere in town but Where?????????????

oh great.. new people again!!!
jk
welcome
and enjoy posting here... MT is pretty cool (as long as you're away from the scary study) MUAHAHAH

welcome

 

[terryl965]

Paul welcome and I agree with the earlier post break it down a little more so we can be complete in our answers.
Terry

 

[paulgalactic]

I'm in phoenix AZ for starters. I am not in school, I am 29, A believer in God Almighty creator of all things in the Universe of Infinity, of pre-destiny, and that everything from the smallest to the largest happens for a reason. I believe Che to be a spirit. I have communicater with several spirits. some of witch have been muses if you will. The word che is also, as most of you probably know, used to describe ones inner strength. 6 months ago (one month after Che came to me) I crashed on my mountain bike twice in one night the second time got me good and I broke my wrist. the emergency room put me in a sling and the next day i went to see a hand specialist. the doctor was a quack yet known as one of the top surgeons in the state. I dont think he even looked or listened to what i had to say. he suggested a cast and a MRI. and left the room to talk to his next patient. the nurse was very curt she started manhandling my wrist. IT hurt and I asked three times for a moment to streatch it out. each time she was very rude and would not let go of my hand. Within five minutes my opposite wrist (the left) began to feel very tensed. I knew in my heart that the cast had to go so I went to a different Emergency room to have it removed. they suggested i return to the specialist. I did no such thing within a week i was useing my butterfly knife with my right and by two weeks my first set of small chucks by three weeks I was back to a job that required quite extensive use of both hands. This is not the first but a very small part of the miracle I expierince every day. I dont need to be schooled in the arts, My wish is to explore, and to spar. everyone has there own beliefs I believe that I've met the spirit that the old master met when he went to the cave in the beginning of what we now refer to as martial art. I want to tell my story to people that will appreciate it. and I want to patent a wepon. I am no master but believe me when i say that I am no beginner. My Skill, strength and stamina seem to double on a weekly basis. And I will tell my story from the beginning and including what I have learned from each of the five animal spirits i mentioned. Starting tomarrow. my question as to the school i should attend is sincere and there are many in Phoenix. I Want to Fight Professoinally. I am currently submitting applications for employment to pay for school. I reciently gave up a job that I liked making good money and moved back to Moms. if i had it to do over again i'd do the exact same thing based on what i learned in the few days i missed costing me the job. Thank You All for your feedback and taking the time to read my tread. I look forward to getting to know you.

 

[Last Fearner]

Paul,

Welcome to MT! You sound like a decent, and seriously dedicated individual. I hope you find what you are seeking, but more importantly, I hope what you need, seeks and finds you.

I am going to try and give you some advice. At the risk of being admonished by some of the more particular moderators here, I am going to be open and honest with you about what I believe you should do. If you don't like my advice, or don't want to follow it, then simply ignore this post, and move on - - no hard feelings.

I have no teacher.

By all means, get one!

i have che... The word che is also, as most of you probably know, used to describe ones inner strength.

Typically, Martial Artists spell this term "Chi" or "Ki" which is why others here did not recognize what you were talking about.

I joined Martial art talk. because i'm trying to decide where i will train outside of my moms house. I'm considerind jeet kune do, ninjitsu, and also the shao-lin temple still.

It is good that you joined Martial Talk to seek help. You will likely find many diverse opinions and expriences among the members here. You mentioned "Jeet Kune Do" which I'm sure you know was the concept developed by Bruce Lee. I will offer you a quote from Bruce Lee as a guide to help you in how to proceed in your quest for a Martial Art school.

"Empty Your Cup!"

You seem to be filled with knowledge. This knowledge, whatever the source, and no matter how perfect it might be, will interfere with your ability to receive new knowledge from a genuine Martial Art Master. Don't go to these schools with your ideas, inventions, and self-discovered knowledge. Empty your cup, and make room for what they have to offer you.

I dont need to be schooled in the arts, My wish is to explore, and to spar. everyone has there own beliefs I believe that I've met the spirit that the old master met when he went to the cave in the beginning of what we now refer to as martial art.

If you don't need to be schooled, then why seek a school? Be modest; be humble; start as a student. Keep your personal, spiritual visions private in the beginning. You will do well to listen, learn, and absorb what others around you have experienced. You already know what your experiences are, thus, to speak of them means you want others to learn from what you know. Be the student first, and a teacher later.

I am no master.

I am glad to hear you realize this. I am a master, I hold the title of Chief Master, and the rank of 6th Dan in Taekwondo (I have black belt degrees in other disciplines as well). My advice to you is to put all of your self-discovered knowledge in a safe place in the back of your mind. Save it for when you have a Black Belt's level of training to compare it with, then bring it forth to create a complete understanding of the Martial Art as only you have experienced it.

I am 29, A believer in God Almighty creator of all things in the Universe of Infinity, of pre-destiny, and that everything from the smallest to the largest happens for a reason.

I am 46, a believer in God Almighty, and I too believe that everything happens for a reason. Therefore, I hope that you realize that you joined Martial Talk, posted your messages, and I read your messages and replied for a reason. Please take this old Masters advice - Empty Your Cup, and speak no further of it to your new instructors until you attain your Black Belt (or equivalent level). Share your thoughts, ideas, and experiences with others here on MT as much as you like, but approach your quest for a Martial Art School as a fresh, new student with a clean slate, and an empty cup!

Good Luck! :asian:
Chief Master D. J. Eisenhart

 

[green meanie]

Welcome! Good luck in your search.

 

[Cirdan]

Welcome to MT and good luck.

My advice: relax and allow yourself to keep it simple for a few months as you explore the basics.

An old favourite saying of mine is that with both feet on the ground you are standing put. With both in the air you lose control.

 

[MJS]

Welcome to MT! Enjoy!

Mike

 

[paulgalactic]

Thank you For telling me what i needed to hear. I will take your advice when i decide on a teecher. I do feel compelled to tell my story as well and will continue to do so. And if it wasn't for your input it's likely that i wouldn't learn nearly as much as i want to in school. I't will be difficult for me to start as a white belt. SO a special thanks to Last Fearner for helping me to realize that its likely that I probably have things to learn as a white belt, a Yellow Belt, and on up through the ranks. also for the spelling lesson haha @ me It's a good thing you don't have to be smart to learn martial arts.

 

[Jade Tigress]

Welcome to Martial Talk ~ Happy Posting!

 

[bobster_ice]

i'm now to the site, as well as the art. i have been actively practicing for 7 months now. I have no belt, I have no teacher. i have che. and I've met Che, I have also gained knoledge from 5 animal spirits; the butterfly, dragonfly,owl,cheetah,dog(sibieran huskey). I'm considering going to the shao-lin temple to train (in phoenix) yet i'm a lil discouraged in that i sent them an email introducing myself and asking if there was a way to counter the expence of school. I asked for a job because i want to eventually make the art my livelyhood. I've been given a gift from Che, and through the dragonfly, an invention, a wepon. i offered to share it with the temple even though i have yet to file for patent. I speak the truth I am a dragonlibra. I joined Martial art talk. because i'm trying to decide where i will train outside of my moms house. I'm considerind jeet kune do, ninjitsu, and also the shao-lin temple still. I would go anywhere in the world if i believed that is where i should train and had a sponsor. I think many schools are like universities they have knoledge but money becomes more important then the art and spirituallity. I don't want a free ride just some help. I have a job and will pay to study somewhere in town but Where?????????????

Hey paul, welcome to martial talk.