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  1. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Wrong. It is the hold.
  2. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Everything you typed above is completely irrelevant to what I said. It’s a grappling fail because if cops understood grappling they would realize that a knee on someone’s neck isn’t necessary to pin someone down, and it only escalates violence. Again, Chauvin isn’t the only cop I’ve seen using...
  3. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    It's a grappling failure because if you knew anything about that hold (Chauvin isn't the only cop I've seen use that hold on someone), you would know that holding someone in that position is potentially lethal. Further, you would know better ways of restraining someone on the ground, thus...
  4. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Which would be an assumption. Incredibly, you seem incapable of recognizing that the use of lethal force occurred because the cops lost control of the situation AFTER they failed to control the suspect via grappling. Thus it would seem rather apparent that if the cops didn't fail during the...
  5. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Cops need to be better trained = Cops justified in murdering people. BJJ being more applicable to police work than Aikido= Disrespecting people who were murdered by police. In short, a laughable interpretation of what is being discussed.
  6. Hanzou

    Aikido has no reason to prove itself!

    That's pure fantasy.
  7. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Uh, how is it vague? If you're grappling against people in your training, you're going to be used to grappling someone in a violent situation. Again, we have multiple examples of this methodology working in that fashion. This isn't some mystical mumbo-jumbo, it's science backed by decades of...
  8. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Bjj skills were designed precisely for that situation. This isn't like Aikido or Karate where you do katas and pretend to fight someone when you're training. In Bjj you're actually fighting when you're training, so you become used to dealing with someone attempting to scramble out of your grips...
  9. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    If the police officers were able to control the suspect on the ground the outcome would have clearly been different. Bjj would have given them the tools to do exactly that because that situation falls perfectly in line with Bjj training methodology.
  10. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Which makes it still fall into the realm of COULD. In other words, if the cops were skilled in Bjj, they COULD have subdued Mr. Brooks without having to resort to shooting him as he ran away with a taser. Back to the point that began this entire conversation; Bjj can be highly useful for law...
  11. Hanzou

    Aikido has no reason to prove itself!

    That's Bas being as respectful as he can possibly be.
  12. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Uh, this entire conversation revolves around what they could have done...
  13. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    I never said any of those shootings were justified, quite the opposite in fact. That said, if the cops knew some grappling, they could control the person without resorting to more violent methods. That's the point. Here is the video of the Rayshard Brooks case; Starting at the 1:08 mark...
  14. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    It's completely true. Having skill in that form of fighting gives you confidence to know that you can control someone. If you don't have that confidence, and the suspect has already broken away from you, you have no control over the situation. Thus you resort to shooting.
  15. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    If the cops knew Bjj, they would have had the skill to subdue the men before they broke away from them. Thus, no shooting required.
  16. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Outside of the Floyd case, the other two incidents occurred because the cops lost control of the assailant on the ground, and the assailant walked or ran away from the cops. The police then shot both assailants as they were escaping.
  17. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Thank you for continuing to show your ignorance. Anyway here’s an article on the topic; Police Officer Uses Flawless Jiu-Jitsu to Subdue Vandal
  18. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    True. I’m thinking that if they knew BJJ Chauvin or the other cops would have known not to use that hold for as long as they did(assuming he wasn’t trying to murder him, which I believe he was).
  19. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Considering your previous semantic arguments, I’m sure I know what the word means better than you do.
  20. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    All three of those incidents resulted from a lack of skill in ground fighting and controlling an assailant on the ground. If those cops knew some, those incidents may not have occurred.
  21. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    The point is that if you get used to throwing/grappling heavy people under duress, it makes it easier to throw/grapple with heavy people under duress.
  22. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    We can look at the George Floyd case, the Jacob Blake case, and the Rayshard Brooks case to showcase how valuable ground fighting can be for law enforcement.
  23. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    I would say that if you are constantly full contact sparring with resistant partners, you're far more prepared than someone doing 2 person compliant katas. If I'm constantly throwing around 300lb people in my Judo class, throwing around a 300lb drunk at a bar should be a walk in the park.
  24. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Bad joke is bad. I would argue that Sport/Olympic Judoka are by far the best exponents of Judo on the planet.
  25. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    I have never encountered a Judo dojo/club where they're not doing sparring/randori.
  26. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Well this is why you need to constantly test. You need to understand how to react to countless reactions from what you're doing. You get that from sparring, since everyone you roll with is going to have a different reaction to your standard process of attack. For example, if my bread and butter...
  27. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    You're forgetting Bjj which combines all three. Anyway, Aikido is different because the training methodology is different. Judo and Wrestling have a competitive sport component which forces live, full contact sparring on a near consistent basis. Aikido doesn't have that, so you have less than...
  28. Hanzou

    Aikido.. The reality?

    Could you point to an example of what you would consider a bad Bjj gym?
  29. Hanzou

    Why is their so much disrespect for Karate? And what can we do to stop it?

    He is. Which is why I didn't even bother responding to him.
  30. Hanzou

    Why is their so much disrespect for Karate? And what can we do to stop it?

    Of course, just like Jobo throws around big/larger people around easily using Karate "grappling" right?
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