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  1. Thunder Foot

    Getting back into Martial Arts and thinking about Jeet Kune Do

    Hi MonkeyWolf, I train JKD and have done so for a little while. I also train Wing Chun. Maybe my $0.02 can be of help. I agree on there being 2 main schools of thought, but not on your descriptions. In my experience most don't really attribute the lineage that's other than Inosanto, to Jerry...
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    A nice display of Miao Dao

    Lovely to see the gung fu interpretation of this historic weapon.
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    JKD without Wing Chun?

    The name of who he trained under in the US; Fook Yeung. You can verify his relationship with the Lee's, that he was a Hei Ban sifu, and that he taught Bruce.
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    JKD Chi Sao Vs. Wing Chun Chi Sao

    Ok, I didn't realize the emphasis of the starting position. So are you saying that by starting chi sau in any position other that YJKYM, one is no longer practicing WC?
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    JKD without Wing Chun?

    Actually Wingchun100, there are several sources who state that Bruce completed his WC training in Seattle, under the tutelage Fook Yeung in Hei Ban Wing Chun.
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    An interesting article on Chi-Sau

    I respect your opinion but I don't follow the logic. How is fook and tan an inferior dominated position? It can be directly equated to an overhook and an underhook in pummeling. It is what you make of it. I think what you are inferring to is a leveraged position that is 50/50. But pummeling...
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    An interesting article on Chi-Sau

    Interesting, because Lee was teaching and working chi sau with John Saxton and others on the set of Enter the Dragon which was the early 70's just before his death. Why would that be if he had abandoned it as you say? Because he still saw value in it and trained it. As for Tackett's WNG, they...
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    JKD Chi Sao Vs. Wing Chun Chi Sao

    I see. So are you saying in your WC chi sau you never use your legs? Or that you've only done chi sau in YJKYM and not in any of the other stances in WC/VT?
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    Sorry, I just saw this and cleaned it up.

    Sorry, I just saw this and cleaned it up.
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    An interesting article on Chi-Sau

    The same can really be said of clinch work, as not all clinch work is created equal. The objective of the plum is not to tie up and exchange, it's to strike dominating the center and interior position, much like chi sau. So I would posit that it's directly comparable. There are multitudes of...
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    JKD Chi Sao Vs. Wing Chun Chi Sao

    And it will most likely be different with every person you train with. Just like different WC/VT lineages chi sau differently. That doesn't quantify a JKD approach, as there is no such thing.
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    An interesting article on Chi-Sau

    Fair enough. I am of the accord of LFJ in that i agree more sparring may be needed, but not that it's more important or higher yielding. In contrast to Muay Thai, most big gyms in Bangkok spend just as much time in clinch work as they do the sparring, which I would say is comparable to chi sau...
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    Wing Chun Forms Origin

    He does give explanation for the differences in the above interview. What is your take on his explanation in that interview? And where might we verify the common belief behind Chan Yiu Min?
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    Wing Chun Forms Origin

    His 1st form The full interview.
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    Wing Chun Forms Origin

    For all my Ip Man lineagers, just curious if anyone has experience with the Chan Wah Sun Ancestral temple in Shunde? Its understood that Ip Man's reductionist ideology (among others) lead to his changes in the forms, but the SLT practiced in Shunde seems to be much larger and is said one of many...
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    An interesting article on Chi-Sau

    Chi sau in my opinion can and should be in relation to lut sau. I learned it as a progressive step towards lut sau and understanding options at those ranges; similar to the distances explored in the 3 hand forms. But more importantly chi sau develops the intuitive reflexes that are required to...
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    Stuck in the middle

    Perhaps you can expand your collection of training equipment. Wooden Dummy, wall bags, long pole, iron training... while none of that will take the place of working with someone, you can strengthen areas often overlooked by those who have regular partners. Then make the most out of the time you...
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    JKD Chi Sao Vs. Wing Chun Chi Sao

    Late to this, but I do both and I would say there is no such thing as "JKD Chi Sau".... there is only Chi Sau. Wing Chun isn't the only style that has chi sau, so why would there be a specific for JKD. One can chi sau in many different ways, and it's all simply Chi Sau.
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    Types of JKD

    DanT, there were really only two. Bruce's Wing Chun and Jeet Kune Do. Everything else I'd say was just semantics of him trying to find a name for what he was working on and refining.
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    just checking in to see who consider themself old school jkd jun fan and who has taken their own rou

    To answer this it really depends on your definition of JKD. If a person says it's a style, then sure one can have their own route away from what they were taught and learned. But as it is, I'd say it's comprehension of the principles inherited from Wing Chun, Boxing and Fencing and how you...
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    Fencing stance

    This particular stance isn't bai jong. It's a transitional stance and the reason why if we look closely, we hardly see Bruce or his students ever use this posture.
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    JKD principle I thought I understood...but actually didn't

    I've seen the video you're talking about Xue. The cool thing about the principles is once you know them, you can interpret them for yourself, as Poteet demo'd. And while the attacking the hand may be one interpretation of this principle, the question then becomes what is the most economical way...
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    Bruce Lee is an excellent example of somebody who really pushed himself

    In terms of Bruce's ability in HK, I've heard both sides of the coin. My belief is that he impressed them. That's enough for me to give merit. In regards to cross training as Xue mentioned, that is a common theme among many fists. Its the epitome of cross training in my opinion.but as the...
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    can anyone surpass bruce lee in jkd?

    I think it will be awhile before that happens. Even now 40+yrs after his passing, we are still finding new brilliance in his methods. He was truly remarkable.
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    Bruce Lee is an excellent example of somebody who really pushed himself

    Tushay Tez, tushay! My apologies. Cross training has been done for thousands of years. Only recently has the community decided to give power to yet another label.
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    Bong gerk vs Tan gerk

    We also have the tan and bong gerk used as demo'd in close quarters. We usually follow with a kick to the support leg. We also use a lan version. As for long distance, we believe the techs have just as much merit as we look to also answer those we can't go straight in on. In those cases, we...
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    UFC proves KF useless

    Well let me start with saying that it is a bit of an enigma to attempt explanation of such a generalization with why no Kung Fu contenders are in MMA. But when I consider the possibilities, I believe a contributing factor may be that the MMA culture in China (where Kung Fu has widely been...
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    Bruce Lee is an excellent example of somebody who really pushed himself

    The term is so generic that anyone can be viewed as an MMA guy. :)
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    JKD without Wing Chun?

    I'm with you on that KPM! It's definitely interesting to see all the existing points of view on the subject. The present disassociation of Wing Chun by many within our community is quite disappointing. I just can't understand how some of our brothers and sisters can't digest that it was the...
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    UFC proves KF useless

    In my opinion the reason why MMA fighters are successful in their competitions and KF is not is due to the fact that the sport is not lucrative enough to draw the attention of practitioners who will devote themselves to a fanatical training regime for pennies to the dollar. It's a known...
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