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    Original Taekwondo

    In those terms yes, it is moot. The debate continues as some do not agree that it was used continuously by Gen Choi. So the back & forth is now limited to points brought up, which ironically point to Gen Choi's continuous use. ;)
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    There were several events that took place in south Korea with TKD. These events resulted in people being arrested, convicted & serving prison time & or other forms of punishment. Since TKD is so valuable to Korea & the Korean people, the Korean National Assembly put in reforms to help "reform"...
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    I find little problem with highlighting any info that is not factual in basis. However you also seem to not want to credit anything positive Gen Choi did, along with his team, in spreading their TKD around the world, which resulted in many wonderful benefits from those that participated in their...
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    There should be little reason for anyone getting testy & respect should be a 2 way street. Exchange of info on a public discussion forum can have benefits, but we always have to carefully evaluate info obtained in such a fashion. I know I am stating the obvious, but felt a need to state it...
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    While that certainly is a difference, is it a big difference or the only difference?
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    Yes there were 7 Koreans that lived abroad during the occupation period for various reasons often related to trying to get access to a better life & future. While outside of Korea, they were also exposed to the martial arts. These 7 men played a role in either opening or teaching at the 5...
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    Part of the problem as I see it, is that TKD, while it came from common roots, its subsequent development took place on more than 1 path & also under more than 1 name, initially. So a more full telling of the history, should I think include info on how the other than Kukki TKD developed, that's...
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    kukiwon certification

    From my understanding the fee was to be nominal, with part of the fee going to the school, the national group & then to the WTF. I was also led to believe that it was needed in part, to help support the WTF, as they were not getting the funds from the KKW was supposed to send it. This was also...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    Yes the silly back & forth do tend to drown out info, for which I am sorry for. Thank you.
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    wow

    Some more good suggestions. I would just like to caution that the scenario involves kids. We were even told that one cried when they were told that they have to spar. So it does indeed seem that this kids were at best misled or done somewhat of a disservice with their previous training. The...
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    Original Taekwondo

    Self serving or not, I am sure that in 1965, Dr Kim's name was not in the TKD or Tae Soo Do scene. Self serving or not, it is all direct proof that Gen Choi used the name TKD continuously, even as President of the Tae Soo Do group. Please see my above post. The fact that Gen Choi was the duly...
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    Original Taekwondo

    No disrespect taken, but I do think that you are mixing some things up here. I did already state that I was not using the name original in that context. I further clarified that in previous posts & offered additional qualification as to my use. I then agreed that I would drop that usage as you...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    The future of TKD I would imagine depends to a degree on how people look at TKD. If all those who call what they are doing TKD are indeed TKD, then it makes some sense that in order to move forward together or working closer with each other, there must be a positive environment. Negativity...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    I am sorry Sir as I did address this & am sorry that it was not to the satisfaction of some readers. Yes people are always free to draw whatever conclusion that they deem best, from info typed on a public discussion forum. There has also never been a calling out under this screen name for...
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    Original Taekwondo

    Quote:Originally Posted by KarateMomUSA "No he was elected as 3rd president & worked to have them change the name to TKD. He did so & did it in such a way that even the Modern History & you say wanted them to push him out, because of his dictatorial, authoritarian ways. While...
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    kukiwon certification

    There was something about a new membership proposal for the WTF players. Not sure how this fits into the picture.
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    Quote:Originally Posted by terryl965 Nobody really knows anything except what they have been told, I guess it is all up to one's interpitation of things. A very big part of evaluating info given or provided by a source, is to check its veracity against other sources. There are 3...
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    I for one am very thankful for what Puunui has shared with us via this forum & the work he has done with, for & behalf of TKD. All can benefit from this. We do know that TKD, while it started from the same shared common roots, it has developed along different paths. Much of the discussion has...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    There really is nothing to deny or confirm. The screen name above has not posted anything negative about anyone. In fact, the posts have been highly laudable about the quality of the info posted by the screen name Puunui. In fact many thanks have been given, as it is very valuable info indeed...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    Quote:Originally Posted by KarateMomUSA "So while you present an option for those to join the past unification of decades ago, that retroactive joining is not a unification, but an absorption into the KKW, a present day entity that was created in 1972 by a true but somewhat...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    I would feel that the KKW finally was able to accomplish what the ITF has already been doing for years. I would salute them for a job well done, as I know the task of such a standardization that the ITF was able to have is a very difficult task indeed. But congratulations would definitely be in...
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    Should senior students be expected to teach?

    Expected? Does this mean required? We had some good replies. I would try to answer it this way: I would hope that the atmosphere of the individual school, set by the instructor(s), would be one where each students comes to fell on their own, through their positive experiences at their particular...
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    GM's

    While I do think as others have said, it will depend on the grandmaster. I am sure common sense issues like health & wealth may play a part. But I do think it should be both! Set up a successor or management team to run the day to day operations & continue to contribute in whatever ways...
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    Staying with it--Taekwondo as you age

    TKD is for the young. It also requires athleticism. But it is also for the old & everyone in between. All who participate will also increase their athleticism, so don't worry. As to advice, all I can add is general suggestions, one should always be under a doctor's care, one should listen to...
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    wow

    I think that there have been some very nice suggestions. However I would ask some more questions: How old are the kids, how long have they trained at that school, have they trained elsewhere & have they ever competed in any tournaments? I think that you need to 1st uphold the good reputation...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    I really like the V-Necks & the Korean feel for them, which goes back to the Korean hanbok. I also like the ITF dobok that joins in the middle & does not have ties, but either a zipper or velcro. I don't think I could ever go back to the cross over or ties! I hated them & now I think of karate...
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    Regarding the future of TKD

    Yes a unification did take place that can trace a start to 50 years ago. So if people want to unify today, you really want them to just join the KKW, come under them, be absorbed by them & follow their outlines. That is OK, but it is not a unification & while that option is there, it always has...
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    I think that there is some confusion among the term Tang Soo Do & Kong Soo Do as umbrella terms that were used to avoid the karate name. While GM Lee came up with the term, GM Hwang Kee continued with its use, making his own martial art & the Tang Soo Do name played prominently in that process.
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    Yes good points, thank you, it does seem that the national pride thing is important.
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    A Brief History of Taekwon-Do by General Choi

    Quote: Originally Posted by dancingalone So, merely being the largest aggregate of kwans makes the KKW the most legitimate? I do not believe that. While the unification was indeed a great accomplishment, it was not complete. It did include all the kwans, but not all kwan...
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