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  1. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Also a fair point, but I'd certainly agree with giving masters the tools to choose from. So education on differing instructional methods, when they work best, for what type/age/stage student, etc, would be useful I'm sure.
  2. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    It's a fair point. The course in 2016 covered this to some extent. For example, from my diary of the course: This morning our first lecture was on Taekwondo Education by Dr Son, Cheontaik of the Kukkiwon Research Institute. He went through some information on psychology including Mavlov’s...
  3. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Go for it, always happy to answer questions if I can. The first time, definitely yes. I was developing power incorrectly, using a lot of brute force and tension rather than acceleration. This was corrected on the course and has definitely improved blocking and punching. Definitely a lot of...
  4. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    I agree as long as either the Kwan is dissolved/inactive or one specifies the split off group. For example, I have absolutely no problem with "I'm an AMDKTA member and our curriculum is X", only with "I'm a (e.g.) Chungdokwan member and our curriculum is X, it's not the same as Kukkiwon's".
  5. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    By the way, if you feel there are any contradictions you feel I wrote that I haven't already explained to clarify, feel free to specifically call them out and I'll try to explain in a different way. These conversations are often better in a pub over a beer, or a Korean restaurant over some...
  6. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    It says something to me loudly, but maybe it says something different to you. What it says to me is that lots of masters keep doing things the way they've always been done, rather than engage in Continued Professional Development (to borrow a work-based term) and go to the people that the...
  7. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    I apparently am not writing very clearly (or at least the meaning behind my words isn't coming through). I'll try again... I am actively part of a Kwan (Changmookwan). When I refer to outdated practices, there are a lot of people who label what they do as "X Kwan Taekwondo" and still practice...
  8. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Just to be clear, I don't think "all other countries are somehow lacking and incorrect" is not something I think or said. My own instructor wasn't Korean. I'm an active Kwan member, although my Kwan 100% supports Kukkiwon standards. I have trained alongside masters from pretty much every...
  9. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Gooood question! So I don't know specifically what you mean by "approved", I can see two potential meanings: 1. Approved to take the course - there's an application process, although as I understand it almost everyone that's qualified enough is allowed. So when I took the course in 2013, there...
  10. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Errr, I disagree mostly with what you wrote, but it's just my 2p worth opinion. I think there have been some small changes over the years with standards, but Korea has been pretty unified for the past 30 years, so I think most of the problems with international instructors feeling the standards...
  11. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Just to add as well, I didn't feel 100% glowing about the Kukkiwon master courses. The main problem I saw when I did the course in 2013 was that one of the students acted as translator for the instructors that didn't speak English. While I commend them for doing it, there were lots of times when...
  12. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    My only experience of an official Kukkiwon course outside of Korea was the poom/dan examiner course in Austria. And while I'm glad to have done it, my experience of it was less than 100% positive. (and I've heard similar things about the master courses held outside Korea from other people). So...
  13. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Errr, not at all. However, what I would say is that Kukkiwon sets the standard for Kukkiwon Taekwondo, so the instructors that Kukkiwon appoints as their official instructors are the ones I would want to learn from. I believe all the current batch are Korean (or at least Korean origin), but if...
  14. andyjeffries

    Utility of an Independent Instructors Only Organization

    Thanks mate. Yeah, my instructor passing was a huge loss to me and to many others (he joined the list of people given a posthumous Kukkiwon 10th Dan for his efforts). I'm with Changmookwan, and so happy to have connected with our family in Korea back in 2012.
  15. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Yeah, I've heard a lot of people say that the courses outside of Korea are less than great value for money. If you can go to Korea though, it's super cheap for the course (and you get the cultural experience of being in Korea, training in Korea, having more instructors on the course, etc).
  16. andyjeffries

    Utility of an Independent Instructors Only Organization

    Exactly! I've been lucky to test for most of my ranks under my direct instructor (that has been since white belt). Unfortunately he passed away last year, so I have a choice to test with UK GMs, or go to Korea to test with the President of my Kwan. I've met him a few times, interviewed him, he's...
  17. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    The funny thing I see it as the opposite. When I did the course twice, it was $200 for 4-5 days of 8+ hours per day training and lessons with some of the best grandmasters in the world. It's cheap as chips for that price! The course is worth it's weight in gold - the training and the networking...
  18. andyjeffries

    Utility of an Independent Instructors Only Organization

    I don't know if you're meaning in general, but I'm looking forward to going to Korea to test for my 8th Dan on the floor in front of 3 grandmasters, including the President of our Kwan. It's certainly not symbolic, although it has a lot of meaning for me (good and bad)
  19. andyjeffries

    Dan Ranks: A Comparison of Ideologies

    Sorry, you aren't remembering correctly. You can attend the 3rd Class Kukkiwon International Master Instructor Course as a 2nd/3rd Dan and you get a "Completion certificate" on the final day after the written exam and physical test. However, that doesn't make you a certified instructor. You get...
  20. andyjeffries

    It really is the system.

    I will say that I feel sorry for the Taekwondo guy. He's really not very experienced in sparring at all. A lot of his kicks were thrown at the wrong distance (i.e. he was kicking short when standing at a middle distance), doesn't really have enough flexibility to be kicking to the head (he...
  21. andyjeffries

    It really is the system.

    Thanks for the mention! :-)
  22. andyjeffries

    Where does your left foot point in a right-leg roundhouse kick?

    I know it does and I love that (if my memory is correct) you're a standards nut your side as much as I am my side of the aisle :-)
  23. andyjeffries

    Where does your left foot point in a right-leg roundhouse kick?

    My answer doesn't take that into account because I answered from a Kukkiwon standards point of view. The Kukkiwon's consistent answer is always "The standard is X, if you can't do it do to body structure or size, do what you can do". So I didn't want to list all of the possible variations...
  24. andyjeffries

    Where does your left foot point in a right-leg roundhouse kick?

    Kukkiwon standards have it currently more like 9:00 than 6:00. @skribs posted this same question somewhere else and I gave the biomechanical reasons why it's like that (I can re-share them here if anyone is interested). The latest Kukkiwon poomsae videos created show a pivot like that -
  25. andyjeffries

    Kukkiwon Benefits

    I just wanted to post that both Jigoro Kano and Gichin Funakoshi (founders of Judo and Shotokan Karate respectively) have recorded history of awarding Dan ranks in one year. If those early martial art founders considered that normal, surely it's a modern thing to suddenly believe a black belt is...
  26. andyjeffries

    Those 40 Kwans

    I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. I've just reread your post (hey, I'm human and open to making and acknowledging mistakes) and I'll quote portions below again. As you've phrased it there is 100% correct. What is incorrect is when you said: I explained with examples how this...
  27. andyjeffries

    Those 40 Kwans

    I agree and sorry for my part in hijacking your thread. However, I think you're likely to be disappointed. I predict this is "about 40 Kwans" and that number was very much in flux as they started, closed, merged and split, so is an estimate of how many dojangs joined. I also estimate that most...
  28. andyjeffries

    Chuck Norris and TKD

    I'm not a fan, as they're a pure sports body. I'd rather they issued "Honorary World Taekwondo Champion" certificates ;-) Yeah, both bodies issue commendations. I've only got a Kukkiwon one, but that works perfectly for me :-)
  29. andyjeffries

    Chuck Norris and TKD

    There's no "Amen brother" reaction, but you'd have got that if there was... I think they saw sense and ones in the past few years at least have been jointly issued with Kukkiwon. I saw a photo of one of the plaques online and it had both logos.
  30. andyjeffries

    Those 40 Kwans

    I think it's possibly even worse - I think it's not just that you don't respect them (i.e. neutral) but in doing so are showing considerable disrespect! Agree with Kyosa/Busabeom, but Sabeom doesn't really mean teacher. Korean uses Seonsaeng (선생) and Seonsaengnim for those (and Ssaem 쌤...
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