Yiquan E-book

[LiamBoyle]

http://mysite.verizon.net/reswv21m/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/yiquanbasicskillsv2.pdf

I can across this pdf file on Yiquan sometime back. As I am not a student of Yiquan (I'm a CMC/ZMQ taijiquan player, actuallY) I was merely looking for additional material on Zhan Zhuang training. However, I noticed in the pdf the sixth chapter is on developing Fa Li / Fa Jin which in many internal arts schools is considered something of an "indoor" technique. Personally I don't train explosive force, as my Sifu has said that such training is simply not yet for me - it will happen in time. I was wondering what some here thought of this material and its apparent availability.

 

[mograph]

I like the book (especially the fact that it has no pictures!), but think that students should not underestimate the amount of practice involved in internalizing its concepts.

I also think that one of the reasons these concepts are "indoor" is that they require patience and practice. This tends to weed out the students who are looking for a quick fix or "secret technique".

 

[LiamBoyle]

The chapter on Zhan Zhuang is pretty good in my opinion. However, I firmly believe that there should be no such thing as "indoor" and "outdoor" teachings. Even though the Yiquan book explains roughly how to do these practices, only practice and perseverance can actually help someone develop these abilities.

 

[oaktree]

It is actually a very good book from what little I have read from it and being it is free.

I personally enjoyed chapter 4.

 

[LiamBoyle]

It's actually one of the main reason I want some type of e-reader like a kindle (as long as said reader can handle .pdf files). Along with this book, I probably have over fifty different .pdf files on various aspects of taijiquan and related martial arts training techniques.

 

[oaktree]

On Verycd.com and Easymule you can find many PDF there are some in english most are in chinese.

It would be excellent if Kindle or any e-reader could play video format.

 

[Xue Sheng]

The chapter on Zhan Zhuang is pretty good in my opinion. However, I firmly believe that there should be no such thing as "indoor" and "outdoor" teachings. Even though the Yiquan book explains roughly how to do these practices, only practice and perseverance can actually help someone develop these abilities.

There is no indoor and outdoor technique. There is what you are ready to learn and what you are not ready to learn. A good sifu knows better than his student what the student is ready to learn.


Good book by the way, thanks

You may also like this one "Chi Kung: Way of Power by Lam Kam Chuen"

 

[LiamBoyle]

I've read that one. I like the five basic Zhan Zhuang postures he presents, but as far as the advanced postures go - I use postures from the CMC (ZMQ) taiji form.

 

[Xue Sheng]

I've read that one. I like the five basic Zhan Zhuang postures he presents, but as far as the advanced postures go - I use postures from the CMC (ZMQ) taiji form.

What would be an advanced Zhan Zhuang posture form CMC?

 

[LiamBoyle]

Golden Rooster, Snake Creeps down, and Repulse Monkey (good for the lower back) would be the main three I use (mostly Rooster and Repulse monkey - Snake creeps down is hard on the knees). Single Whip is supposed to be really good for opening the joints according to the writings of Professor Cheng. Any of the form postures can be used for Zhan Zhuang training. I prefer the Taiji postures to the advanced Yiquan postures.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Thanks

Basically Traditional Yang Taijiquan stance training.

 

[LiamBoyle]

Exactly, although there's a bit of difference to how one stands in the postures between traditional Yang (Yang family style) and the CMC/ZMQ style.

 

[mograph]

It's what you do and think (intention) while holding a stance that makes it "Yiquan" or not ... right?

 

[Xue Sheng]

Exactly, although there's a bit of difference to how one stands in the postures between traditional Yang (Yang family style) and the CMC/ZMQ style.

Yes there is.

 

[Xue Sheng]

It's what you do and think (intention) while holding a stance that makes it "Yiquan" or not ... right?

I am of the belief that

What you do is stand

What you think is nothing be it Yiquan, Taijiquan, Baguazhang, Xingyiquan, Changquan, Wing Chun or for that matter Sanda.

But then I do not do Yiquan so I could be wrong.

 

[mograph]

What you think is nothing ...

Xuesheng, the essence of Yiquan is, you guessed it, Yi. Intention. If you read the PDF, you'll get a better idea of what the student is asked to do during standing practice.

Now, keep in mind, that these intentions can also be applied to the traditional standing postures of other arts with varying effects. The student is encouraged to experiment. It's this internal focus and aforementioned intention that makes this practice more than simply standing.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Xuesheng, the essence of Yiquan is, you guessed it, Yi. Intention. If you read the PDF, you'll get a better idea of what the student is asked to do during standing practice.

Now, keep in mind, that these intentions can also be applied to the traditional standing postures of other arts with varying effects. The student is encouraged to experiment. It's this internal focus and aforementioned intention that makes this practice more than simply standing.

Agreed, it is much more than simple standing

 

[Tommy]

Thanks Liam for the book.

I agreed with Xue that there are not indoor or outdoor techniques. When you are ready a good sifu will teach you more. Faster not always better. My sifu used to say Siu Min Tau is used to take over a year to teach and a few years to learn it correctly. I used to disagree with him but now I think he is right!

I couldn't wait for my taiji lesson to begin. The funny thing is though my main arts is wing chun and, i have been practicing it over the last 10 years, but I have only 3 books about wc. However, in the last three weeks I have bought more 10 books in Taiji (anything with the Professor name on it and yang style) and qigong.

When i decided that I will be learning CMC Taiji i did some research and found out that many people don't think CMC Taiji is Yang style, and after watching lots of video from the Yang family and many others and compare them to the Professor, I agree it not a Yang style anymore and i don't like the word "simplified" either. I would rather it be called CMC style.

Sorry guys if I went of the subject.

 

[LiamBoyle]

Actually many of us who practice the CMC/ZMQ style refer to it as that, or as "Cheng" style. It was Professor Cheng Man-Ch'ing (Zheng Manquing in pinyin romanization) who called the Taiji he created "Simplified." This was in the 1930's before the creation of the 24 posture form of simplified taijiquan. There is a different understanding of "sung" between CMC style and traditional Yang, and traditional Yang style doesn't use the principle of "beautiful Lady's hand," at least, not that I am aware of.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Actually many of us who practice the CMC/ZMQ style refer to it as that, or as "Cheng" style. It was Professor Cheng Man-Ch'ing (Zheng Manquing in pinyin romanization) who called the Taiji he created "Simplified." This was in the 1930's before the creation of the 24 posture form of simplified taijiquan.

The Yang family also calls it Cheng Manching style, as a matter of fact they sent out of their way to make the distinction between Yang family style and Cheng Manching style

There is a different understanding of "sung" between CMC style and traditional Yang, and traditional Yang style doesn't use the principle of "beautiful Lady's hand,"

Yes it does as does Chen, Wu, Wu/Hao, Sun, Zhaobao