who actually thinks you can punch someone on top of you.

[Danny T]

I focus on the techniques that work the most amount of times. So if my knee push escape works 10% of the time. And striking works 1% then I am going to suggest hitting that escape.

Ok.
I know a lot of people who throw the rt overhand and practice it a lot. Seldom works but when it does it is spectacular.

One method failing does not always validate the other method.

No one said so.

 

[Zero]

Ok.
I know a lot of people who throw the rt overhand and practice it a lot. Seldom works but when it does it is spectacular.

Mighty Mo had the overhand punch down real well, used it all the time, even used in the same K1 tournament against consecutive opponents that knew it may be coming and to great effect. He clearly worked on this and had the timing down real well, as said, a kind of Hail Mary move, but it damn near produced a knock down or KO every time it connected.

Hits at 1:45, 2:32, 2:39 (the dude's face at 2:39 kind of tells you how it feels!!):

 

[Zero]

QUOTE="Hanzou, post: 1713948, member: 31336"]In any case, I think we've established that the one-inch punch is nothing more than a parlor trick.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.

There may be opportunities/situations were you can employ the technique in a real altercation, ie when someone is standing static in front of your simply hassling you (less or nil in a fight against a ready opponent) but in general, it's just a lot of fun to play with if you have the time and that's it.

I played around with this a lot on the side for a short while, on doors/cupboards/ mates and the old seeing how far you can shunt a tin can across the table etc. I had this done to me by my sifu in WC for fun to good effect (but as noted, he had me standing flat footed straight on to him so my balance has heavily compromised and so any contact was going to send me backwards).

I am thinking about it but don't think this could be used very well from the ground when mounted, you could not twist/flick or engaged the hips or shift balance/weight through your arm, it would be simply just a shunt upwards from the arms/fist, I think...you'd have as much effect, or more, just doing limited upwards standard punches relying on triceps...I think...

 

[Zero]

They are super secret other methods.

And I do mma.

You mean "UFC mma".

 

[Crazy Eyes]

As someone who's been on the receiving end of a ground and pound more than once, I can attest to the near impossibility of punching someone on top of you. You can, however, grab a hold of them, get them close, and bite off chunks of their face like a werewolf.

 

[Jenna]

As someone who's been on the receiving end of a ground and pound more than once, I can attest to the near impossibility of punching someone on top of you. You can, however, grab a hold of them, get them close, and bite off chunks of their face like a werewolf.

yous werewolves are a hepatitis risk! plus how do you know your opponent will not do you with a silver shank?

 

[Rich Parsons]

As someone who's been on the receiving end of a ground and pound more than once, I can attest to the near impossibility of punching someone on top of you. You can, however, grab a hold of them, get them close, and bite off chunks of their face like a werewolf.

While in a life and death situation , I can see risking the exchange of blood with a bite. Yet it would not be my go to move.
The grab and pull tight and attack other parts of them including the head is ok.
Jabbing up with a spear like motion and or fist can get a shot in. Also if one does with w shrimp motion one can get some range and reaction.
One can also hammer fist which is a gross motor skill and the body mechanics allow for that motion easily.

 

[Crazy Eyes]

yous werewolves are a hepatitis risk! plus how do you know your opponent will not do you with a silver shank?

I realize you are just being facetious. But realize, you are addressing a man who puts on a uniform and risks his life every single day. That alone should be worth your respect.

 

[PiedmontChun]

In any case, I think we've established that the one-inch punch is nothing more than a parlor trick.

To generate power to actually move someone from 1 inch away is impressive on its own; no one is claiming its a devastating strike or that it is superior to a striker's normal range. To call it a parlor trick is missing the point.... the point that it IS possible to generate short range power with practice and particular structure. There's no magic involved or secret techniques. I weigh 240 pounds and I have been pushed off my feet by people smaller than me, and have also been hit in the floating ribs by my teacher from inches only away hard enough that it shocked me.
Why is it not seen in MMA? Don't know, maybe it is; after all Alan Orr incorporates WC concepts into training fighters I hear. I don't follow fighters. In the end, some skills are more than just a technique you can put in your toolbox, they require training a certain way or altering your structure which might be foreign to the boxing / Muay Thai crowd, like 'round hole, square peg'.

 

[Steve]

To generate power to actually move someone from 1 inch away is impressive on its own.

It doesn't take much power at all to move someone, if the angle is right, and they have no base. Standing or on the mat, if you're moving to a dead angle where the other guy has no support, moving them is effortless, regardless of their size or weight. Think about a four sided dice (picture below for anyone who didn't play D&D as a kid). If you put your finger on the point at the top and try to roll that dice over a flat side, it's easy. Over one of the points, it's much more difficult. Same thing happens with people. Moving to the dead angle, where they have no structure, it takes no effort at all to move them.

 

[Dirty Dog]

I realize you are just being facetious. But realize, you are addressing a man who puts on a uniform and risks his life every single day. That alone should be worth your respect.

Must be one hell of a scary mall you work in. How do the merchants stay in business while operating in what is (from what you've posted) a war zone. Do they all sell ammunition and body armor?

 

[Steve]

One of our local malls actually has Segway scooters for the security guards. It's hard not to make comparisons to Paul blart.

 

[Dirty Dog]

One of our local malls actually has Segway scooters for the security guards. It's hard not to make comparisons to Paul blart.

Do they use them in the halls? I'd think the risk of running into Gramps would be too high.

 

[Steve]

Do they use them in the halls? I'd think the risk of running into Gramps would be too high.

Yup. They're pros.


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[sinthetik_mistik]

yeah once you're on the receiving end of ground'n'pound your pretty much f***ed. There may be ways to wrestle your way out of one but I'm no BJJ expert

 

[Rich Parsons]

I realize you are just being facetious. But realize, you are addressing a man who puts on a uniform and risks his life every single day. That alone should be worth your respect.

What is this said uniform?
A Clown Uniform?
A Military Uniform?
A LEO Uniform?
A Health Specialist Uniform?
A Business Uniform?
A Would you like Fries with that Uniform?

Curious minds are interested

 

[Crazy Eyes]

What is this said uniform?
A Clown Uniform?
A Military Uniform?
A LEO Uniform?
A Health Specialist Uniform?
A Business Uniform?
A Would you like Fries with that Uniform?

Curious minds are interested

It's a security officer's uniform. And it's one I've been proud to where for nearly a decade now. Too many good men and woman have given their lives wearing it, so I suggest you use a little reverence instead of denigration.

 

[Steve]

It's a security officer's uniform. And it's one I've been proud to where for nearly a decade now. Too many good men and woman have given their lives wearing it, so I suggest you use a little reverence instead of denigration.

maybe something in between. Reverence And denigration both seem a bit extreme.


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[Buka]

Working (professionally, for pay, as opposed to volunteering or to just chip in) in an milieu where you are designated as the person that handles "problems" coming from outside sources dealing with potential violence, victims, larceny, human behavior fueled by emotion, people influenced by controlled substances, alchohol or what-have-you, is a real pain in the ***. Hats off to everyone in the field. Stay safe.

 

[Rich Parsons]

It's a security officer's uniform. And it's one I've been proud to where for nearly a decade now. Too many good men and woman have given their lives wearing it, so I suggest you use a little reverence instead of denigration.

DUDE!

BACK UP!

You insult people and me and want me to give you respect. WOW !?!

You have not asked about me, or my experience or maybe you know about it, because you have been here before?

Give a little respect to those who ask questions and comment and maybe they will reply in kind. You may not have known I have done security work. I have been on the scene of accidents before the official first responders. I have had my rear end handed to me by gangs and survived being shot at (multiple times - as well as being held at gun point), stabbed, cut, hit by a car, hit by a truck, hit by a suburban, going through plate glass windows, tazers, golf clubs, baseball bats, tire irons, ... , keep the list going and people have probably used it against me. I have used improvised weapons as well.

So take a step back, yourself and provide a little insight as to why you make your comments versus making strange comments and trying to sound bad *** and dangerous. Just present that data and let others recognize or comment on your condition or survival.