Which style of karate would you consider most “complete”

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  1. Brandon Miller

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    which style of karate would you consider most complete in regards to all around self defense and realistic application?
     
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    There is no secret ingredient
     
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    What is important is finding a good instructor, putting in the work, and experience in applying what you learn.
     
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    What's the best bottle?
     
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    The one you actually train in. As opposed to just asking the same question different ways.
     
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    I’m rather partial to Nikka Coffey Grain Japanese whiskey. Yummm.....
     
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    I'm partial to a 40 year old Taylor Fladgate Port, myself. The 20 year old is good, too, but the 40.... Oh.... my... Ghad!
     
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    Where might a fellow get such a bottle? And how much might it set one back?
     
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    There's a shop near me that carries the 20 year old stuff all the time, and can get the 40 if I ask for it. The 40 year old stuff is about $250 a bottle, so you might imagine I don't ask for it very often. The 20 year old is about $50.
    I'm also partial to De Amore liqueurs. I think the lemon is my favorite, but the orange is also very good.
     
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    Kudo probably. Which is sort of karate
     
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    Not the contents. Just the bottle. Which one is best?
     
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    I really like Otter Creek Stovepipe Porter. They stopped brewing it a while back.

    Depending on my mood and if I had to really narrow it down, my favorite bottle would be a toss up between Cooperstown Brewery’s Benchwarmer Porter and Old Slugger Pale Ale, Sierra Nevada’s Porter of Pale Ale. Yeah, I’m mainly a Porter and Pale Ale fan. Don’t care much at all for IPA.

    Anchor makes a great Porter too. And a local brewery - Brown’s in Troy, NY makes a great oatmeal stout. I’m not a fan of putting stuff other than malts and hops in beer, but oatmeal in stout is somewhat acceptable overall to me. I’m ok with a flavored beer for about a pint, but I can’t drink any more of it than that.

    My father loves his single malt scotch. I can’t drink it.

    That reminds me, I’ve got to get him a bottle for Christmas. Any recommendations for a $50-$70-ish bottle? He gives me a hard time when I spend more than that. No Glenfiddich or Macallen.
     
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    Him or me?
     
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    None of them.

    Its more about school than style. Different instructors develop different understandings of the material.
     
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    I have to disagree... Ameri-Do-Tae with it's Hurticane and groin stumps, haha

    I agree... Take the any art and style with two different instructors and you'll see alot of differences depending on their emphasis...
     
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    I'm a big porto fan myself but I am not partial to the tawny's. To me, the older the tawny the more of the wood (oak barrel) I can taste. I much prefer the vintage ruby's but they are rather pricey. Very smooth and characteristically very different from a regular ruby and or LBV. Vintage ruby's are not everyday porto's for me though (I wish). Graham's LBV is a porto with good value if you haven't tried it. It is closer akin to a ruby than a tawny but I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it.
     
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    It will depend alot on the actual school and quality of the instructors
    and many styles in theory are well rounded but they do have some core differences in strengths and weaknesses
    Some aspect of some major sub styles of karate

    Goju Ryu - focuses on blending hard and soft elements of fighting, trapping hands, hojo undo conditioning, and some weapons work
    Kyokushin - is a hard strong style with a strong fighting spirit and good punches and kicks
    Shito Ryu - has many informative katas and typical fast straight forward movements
    Shorin Ryu - is the okinawan version of shaoling kung fu
    Shotokan - has great basic techniques, and very solid stances
    Wado Ryu - doesnt focus on hard sparing but rather body movement to avoid many attacks
     
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    You'd probably better tell my instructors we don't focus on hard sparring! it might not be 'focus' as much but we certainly spar hard and many times with hard if not full contact.
    It is going, always, to depend on instructors, not just style. Wado Ryu also has take downs and many jiujutsu techniques imbedded in it from the founder.
     

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