We're hearing things all the time about how Kenpo/Kempo is or isn't street effective etc. The same is true of every MA out there. The answers from practitioners range from: "Heck yeah this is street effective as is!" to "Not really, but I do it for the love of the art." to "Well, it's good for the reflexes and everything, but it couldn't really be used to fight with without modification." When I read that Sheriff memo that Doc posted I thought I'd start a separate thread to discuss this aspect of it. Is Kenpo effective for real fighting? If not, why do you do it? If so, give some cases in point of where you've either used it, or have seen it used in a real fight and whether it had to be modified or was used as it was taught. Also include if TKD, Karate, Kick Boxing, Muy Thai etc. could have been used just as effectively in the same situation. The point of this is to figure out whether Kenpo in particular and the Martial Arts in general are worth pursuing if one is looking to learn how to fight. If not, why did the Masters of old create it? Why did they do it the way they did? Did fights happen differently than they do now? Did untrained attackers attack differently [having been exposed to the existence of traditional MA techniques form the media] than they do now and thus allowed the traditional techniques to work then where they wouldn't now a days? Have they evolved into something that doesn't work, but that used to work the way it was first taught? Has too much showiness crept in? Has the need to teach it to the masses watered it down? Too much point sparring crept in? Do the techniques work, but only if they are applied correctly, or do they not work at all as is and always have to be modified? If they DO have to be modified, why were they created the way they were in the first place rather than the way that really works? In other words: What is Kenpo good for? If it's not good for fighting as is, why are we doing it as is?