What is Happening to Our Children?

Sukerkin

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I used to argue exactly the same case as EH has been laying out above. I was emphatic and vehement and had a lot of stats to back up my point of view (I did a degree in economics and had a strong thread of sociological research running through it to go with the maths and history).

I have had the same debate internally too i.e. are things really getting worse or is it just a symptom of the media-age and my middle-age?

My conclusion from experience? Things are getting worse. The stats are not a lie precisely but they are misleading and are manipulated to give the required view by the compiling body.

One important thing to bear in mind is that many 'crimes' are just not reported anymore because, through no fault of their own, the police are incapable of solving or resolving them. I've been attacked a couple of times and had an attempted an break-in to my home and not reported them because I've learned that nothing comes of it.

The media rumour-mill is powerful and can strongly influence peoples perceptions but what my conclusion is based on is personal observation and that of my friends and associates.

Part and parcel of the general nastiness is that the attacks that occur are just so cowardly. When I grew up, even tho' violence was an integral part of the 'entertainment' machine, it was violence of a last resort carried out by people with a sense of honour.

That carried through all over the place. Bear in mind that, despite my education, I was a biker in my younger days and hung out in the most unsavoury places imaginable. My view is not some rose-tinted, 'Ivory Tower', wistful false rememberance of past golden times - I've had a shotgun stuck up my nose 'with intent' because I walked through the wrong door at the wrong time :eek:.

A corrosive fluid is undermining our society and it's fed with the best of intentions. I've argued before (as others have here) that one of it's it's sources is a lack of proper discipline in the new members of society we're bringing up.

Schools are the simplest example of the change. When I was a youth, in the main, noone dared to challenge the authority of the teachers and those that did faced the humiliating consequences of public corporal punishment if they did not mend their ways. Now teachers are hamstrung by the 'bleeding hearts' and schools are more or less run by the children - is it any wonder that all they learn is how to gratify themselves and harbour an inflated sense of self-worth?

Anyhow, I have to leave this topic now as it's too complicated to effectively discourse via quick-fire posting (as, sadly, are most things worth dicussing :().
 

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I was fortunate to acquire a very old book describing notable legal cases in the USA for its first 50 years or so..... late 1700's to early 1800's. Know what? The criminals were every bit as barbaric as they are now.

In any era, you always have had a small group of savage killers, many starting quite young. Do some influences - World War I trench warfare, MTV, internet porn, media sensationalism, whatever - bring out the worst in some or trigger the crimes of others? Almost certainly, but I do not think you can attribute the majority of the truly terrible crimes to any one thing.... except that some are horribly violent and evil from a very early age.
Exactly! For instance, there were terrorist bombs blowing up all over the place in support of this or that Union during the twentieth cuntury. The Term "Redneck" meant you were a simpathizer and has nothing to do with the sun beating down on the back of anyones neck as is so popularly believed... but I digress.
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I wonder if today's crimes have the appearance of being more violent because of the contrast between the brutality of the crime and the mundanity of our normal routine. Human life has always been considered "nasty, brutish, and short", but with our society's unprecedented level of affluence and stability it comes as a shock when we are reminded of this grim fact.

I think that it reflects well on our society. Not that it happens, but that it generates so much shock and revulsion.
 

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