What are the chances an attacker is going to try a "submission" technique?

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  1. drop bear

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    Good structure isn't static.


     
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    if it's moving it's good dynamics
     
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    Rugby isn't the same situation. Some similarities, but not the same. I've seen some of these actually used in MMA fights at pretty high levels, so they do work against athletes.
     
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    You're wanting his words to mean what you think they mean, though. He's making a point about what a given structure can do for you. You're wanting to nitpick his exact wording, rather than trying to learn something. Sure, he overstated the point a bit, but you don't bother to look for what is meant.
     
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    well they wwork against good athletes perhaps, when done by other better athletes. that's not the same as you or most other people on here,throwing a line backer, is it
     
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    his words were try and push me over, which I did, if I can push him over when he weighs 50lbs more than me, then some little guy can push me over, so I did le.arn something, don't stand like that in a pushing !match, perhaps he learned the same tHing !
     
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    Or maybe you missed what he was trying to teach.
     
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    So is your instructor any sort of decent wrestler?

    Someone who would actually know how to stand?
     
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    it's my learning style to challenge what I'm told, not facts, though some times facts turn out to be not so factual, when you require them to be proved beyond reasonable doubt, but the application and interpretation of those fact, to be proved by rational debate or demonstration. that way, when I think I know some thing I'm reasonably sure that what I know is true, and if the thing is reversed and someone does it to me and I'm wrong then I learn from that aas well.

    . this became less and less of an issue, the higher up the educational system I got, where chalanging facts and theories is the main point of education. but my school teacher used to get very upset with me, for telling them they were wrong and proving it in front of the class, getting bullied for being clever isn't unusual at school, but its not generally the teacher doing it

    authority figures, or at !least people who think they are an authority on the subject in hand, ( like some on here)don't always appreciate this method of learning and get quite cross, when asked to prove something they believe is true, but they have never taken the trouble to prove to themselves. that's how myths are perpetrated andseems particularly prevalent in ma where instructors are above being challenge

    like say, thinking they can't be pushed over, and telling others this us so, it doesn't generally cause issues at the dojo, the instructor is amenable to being challenge, though he did get very very annoyed with me, when demonstrating an arm lock on me in front of a visiting instructor from"head office" and no matter how hard he tried, I just twisted my arm and unlocked it and laughed at his attempts, but that's his problem for believing what someone else has told him, with out testing it properly,
     
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    For us we do demo, drill, resisted, sparring pretty much.

    So there is that opportunity to lab test but also some time to get a handle on the technique as well.

    I think the issue was your timing.
     
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