Western 10th Degrees. Fake or legit?

I know or have known more than my share of 10th dans. The first was as fake as the day is long. The other hand full are or were 100% real. Yes they had a minimum of 50 years training uechi-ryu and in their 70's 80 and 90's

 

What about those of eastern descent who were born in the west?

Or westerners who were born or raised in the east, or have lived there for xxx years?

How about - would someone with an eastern father and western mother automatically be capable of legitimately outranking someone with a western father and eastern mother but neither would be able to equal someone with two eastern parents?



I'm sure there's a word for making assumptions about somebody's authenticity or capability based on parentage or skin colour, but I really can't put my racism finger on it.

 

I didn't mean it as any kind of ethnic slur or advantage. But I am of an era when the majority of the legit high ranking instructors were not American. I suppose in this day and age it can be used as a deceitful advantage. I haven't dived into the lineage of a great many styles. One American who really impressed me was Rusty Gray from a Kung Fu lineage with Wang Ziping. I have worked out with many higher ranking Americans in TKD but few could carry themselves the way the Korean GM's of my early days did. Of course I was more impressionable back then. I do think it is a rougher sled to pull for an American to gain the pinnacle or MA respect.

 

I wasn't necessarily pointing directly at you

But the other comments do highlight how the term was sullied by people claiming master or GM ranks after a few years.

Maybe 'master' could've been justified if they 'lived' it, just, maybe...

People who started training before I was born may have a jaded view because of that?

 

And then you have "Great Grandmaster" Fredrick J Villari who is a 12th Degree Black Belt.

A 12th.

 

To one-up the competition. Or in this case, two-up it. If you’re 10th dan and I want to somehow prove I’m better than you, I’ll claim 12th dan and let your students know how superior I am to you and everyone else.

Quite simple, really. Yet quite pathetic.

 

I didn't take any of it as directed at me. Credibility is an important issue for any school owner/instructor.

 

This is Dr. Castro to several posted discussions I've just read for the first time. These gentleman should have confronted me in person. I have never presented myself as a 10th Degree Black Belt ànd I've never been the best performer of kata. Moreso interested in techniques that worked. Anyhow, there will always be someone better. My credentials are legit. In 2004 I was a 6th Degree BB. And I never turned down an opportunity to train or randori. From 1998 to 2000, I taught kids under the MWR program at Camp Zama; 15 kids total. The class discontinued because MWR needed the space to support another requirement. Both I and the TKD instructor had to stop. As such, I asked mil & civ adults if they were interested. I trained eight adults from 2000 thru 2005. In 2004, without my knowledge, MWR added me to a demo list. MWR wanted my demo to be non traditional. Of course I was not prepared. The story of Okinawan sword makers was a true in history. Swords were prepared with temporary wooden hand grips. Japanese military would hassle sword makers in Okinawa during the war. When sword makers fought back they used the unfinished swords to defend themselves. I presented an old Okinawan kata although used electrical stun batons in attempt to sparkle the moment. Not sure what it looked like to the audience, but I was glad MWR liked it. There was much better demos then mine. And there was an unfortunate accident of more concern. When Master Onozaki kicked and broke a baseball bat a piece flew into the audience & injured a young boy. Back to these posted comments, these negative comments are unfounded. My credentials and rank are legit, my memberships are in good standing. I teach in Hawaii; unfortunately not at the moment until the COVID-19 Pandemic is cleared up. And I will continue teaching to the best of my ability.

 

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