We owe the Chi Masters an apology

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  1. AngryHobbit

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    My back problem is such that it's just chronically screwed up. So, I am used to routinely adjusting for it.
     
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    I only had personal knowledge with spleen issues from malaria. In Vietnam, a man died under our detention. Naturally that caused quite a stir. The family was convinced to allow an autopsy. The pathologist determined the man died of a ruptured spleen, with no evidence of outside trauma. According to the pathologist, that was not uncommon in Vietnam and other parts of South-east Asia, as sometimes one side effect was an enlargement of the spleen. That was sometimes so severe that the spleen would, from otherwise natural activity, pull itself loose from its attachments, causing a tear that allowed the person to bleed to death. Some of us got to where we took our malaria pills a lot more regularly after that.

    I sense that you are skeptical of herbal medicines.

    https://www.pharmaceutical-journal....ics/a-history-of-aspirin/20066661.fullarticle where you might want to note the medicinal use of one of the ingredients of aspirin from a rather long time ago. And you might be aware that a lot of modern medicines are synthesized from exotic plants and insects, usually as a result of questioning indigenous peoples about how they treat various medical problems.

    I don't know if I got one of these Do You Know About These Natural Products that Stimulate Insulin Production? | Natural Medicine Articles | Natural Medicine/Natural Healing or not, but I have type II diabetes. My wife was once getting some herbal concoctions from an herbal doctor who would prepare a prescription of herbs/spices after interviewing a patient, then produce a powdered or liquid medicine. My wife mentioned that I had diabetes and didn't think anything more about it I guess, and the herbalist must have felt secure from whatever her answer was, to add some diabetes treatment herbs to his mix. When I started taking the medicine, my blood sugar dropped to dangerous levels. I quickly realized it was due to the medicine. Western medicine on a good plan is cheaper so I quit taking that medicine.

    Does all herbal or folk medicine work? I don't know. Probably not. But some of it sure does.
     
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    OK JR 137, I'm tired of picking on you now so I guess I will don my flame resistant suit and crawl back into my hole. :p
     
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    My problem chronically comes, and only after a while goes. It is severe enough I at least, don't seem to be able to adjust for it. Or maybe I just have a low tolerance for pain?
     
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    I’m not skeptical of herbal medicine. I agree a lot of our modern pharmacological medicines started off as herbal medicines. My issue is some of the stuff out there is very far fetched. My initial post about it was how people used to take it blindly because the local witch doctor told them it healed others. Meanwhile there was no way to know if the medicine healed them or if they would’ve healed in the same amount of time without it.
     
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    oftheherd1 Senior Master

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    :p
    Not to mention alcoholic snake oil favored in old west movies. :p
     
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    Love herbal medicine and deplore the amount of BS built up around it, especially here in the States. I am very much with you on that. It's amazing what people believe just because it's printed on a label and stuck onto a plastic bottle. Or because the second aunt of a brother of a cousin of a sister-in-law says it works.
     
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    I've seen people use herbal medicine and my instructor usually talks highly about it but frankly that stuff is still strange in my opinion. Not doubting it's effectiveness I just find the subject unusual in general.
     
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    Put it this way... If I'm having a heart attack or even just a really nasty case of the flu - I am going to the doctor and then to the pharmacy. Not the local vitamins r' us. :)
     

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