USMC CQC manual

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  1. theletch1

    theletch1 Grandmaster

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    Found this while digging around on the net. This manual is what the Corps began using after I left. When I was in it was the LINE system. The new techniques take into account that you can't always justify killing your opponent. The old LINE system really didn't care what the political reality was so long as the Marine survived and therefore taught a killing blow at the end of every technique. Ah, the good old days. ;) Enjoy.
     
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    MCMAP is good in theory, but what i've seen of LINE is better. personally, i don't think we should be deploying marines for 'peacekeeping'. marines kill things, period.
     
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    Wow, great find! So far the content looks pretty familar to me.
     
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    Thanks for the link. It'll be interesting to read up on and then watch the CD's of the MCMAP Program and compare :)
     
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    Nice find!
     
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    Thanks for that link
     
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    Great find
     
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    shesulsa Columbia Martial Arts Academy

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    My husband just groaned and I just drooled. Guess he knows where my nose will be for a few hours later.
     
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    First of all "Semper Fi". I learned the LINE system as well.
    This is cool. thanks for posting.
     
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    I would kill to get hold of some of those cds but I am told that they are only given to marines. I just hope we don't have a lawyer open a chain of MCMAP schools and have it taught by aerobics instructors with no martial arts or Marine background.
     
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    theletch1 Grandmaster

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    Excellent point, Bill. Nothing in the MCMAP system is new, really, it's all stuff that's been taken from different martial arts and applied in the context of how a Marine might need it. So, in that aspect it could be done as a quick self defense art, much like what Krav Maga has become but I really can't see someone opening a "Cardio MCMAP" school.
     
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    Which is proof that Marines were never intended to police and direct traffic.
    Sean
     
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    Very true, we weren't. However, we also used to use the phrase "Adapt and overcome" a good bit. The Corps will do whatever the CIC calls upon them to do and do it well. I don't know that I could operate in the Corps of today with my old school mindset of what the Corps should be but I certainly tip my hat to those that are.
     
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    I don't think they are doing much of this anymore. The Marines I support in Afghanistan are in engaged in combat pretty much everyday.
     
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    No doubt as Afghanistan is pretty darn scary right now. Say a prayer for any military personnel over there. :asian:
     
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    Thanks for posting the link, I enjoy poring over military h2h manuals.
     
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    Nice link,any link for LINE?
     
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    Love the link. It is alot like what I learned in the Army in the 80's. I hear they have changed to ground fighting now.
     
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    Haven't found any link for LINE yet. It was removed from the Corps site when MCMAP came on line. I'm still looking and may even have one of my old manuals in storage somewhere from my days in the Corps. I'll keep looking, though.
     
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    It appears the Army has copied MCMAP based on some reading I've done on the US Army combatives manual and the book H2H by Kid Peligrio and comparing it to what I've seen on Human Weapon and what I've seen of MCMAP (I had a brief exposure to it as a midshipman, first in a six week self defense course and second during a summer program called Leatherneck (where wannabe Marine officers among us trained). As an aside I was not selected for the Marine Corps due to a low class standing, Marine was very competitive with my year group.).

    The Army H2H book had a lot of MMA influence for the empty handed techniques and grappling. Of course the rifle combatives where as I remembered them from my midshipman days.
     

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