I don't know how to break this to you...YOU are the one that keeps mentioning MMA! You are the one that keeps saying that MMA is no good because it's grappling, well, the thing is, it's not just grappling is it? MMA fighters aren't just MMA fighters they are also martial artists most of whom train in other others and also self defence, they are more than proficient in being able to defend themselves because it only involves a quick mind click and you've changed into reality mode.You need to realise that MMA isn't just grappling, that MMA fighters don't always grapple even in an MMA competition. You brought it up now please accept the words of those that do MMA and understand that MMA isn't what you think it is! what you see on the UFC is competition, you know nothing, although you think you do because you have a friend going into the UFC, about the training involved in MMA. No one here has said that grappling is specifically good for self defence, it's good IF you are taken down but only you keep going on about it.