thekuntawman is a racist tournament fighter

[moromoro]

hi dan

yes it is very important to teach those who are in need of self protection, this is probably where many have seen arnis / eskrima evolve in the aspect of self defence. But there are still some of us who like to train for pure improvement of our fighting skill although we are getting rare nowadays.

cheers

terry

 

[modarnis]

Chad,

When did you become Mr. Safety? I recall at least one ER visit with a side visit to the orthopedist too.

 

[dearnis.com]

Yes indeed. And part of teaching is helping your students to gain the same knowledge without enduring the pain and lasting injuries of your mistakes.
You know what both my hands look like. We hadn't started training togther yet when I had to have a knee rebuilt. You get to hear me gripe about how great I feel when the weather changes....
In other words do as I say, not as I do.

 

[arnisador]

Originally posted by Dan Anderson
As an instructor in the US, I have a different viewpoint on this. When I first began instructinig in 1969, it was in the mode of the survival of the fittest. I lost many students and I thought, "Well, they couldn't take it." Then I began to look a the needs of the student rather than my own ego. Before, only the strong survived. Here's the funny thing - usually the strong don't need it! It's the non-fighters and the weaker ones who need martial arts. So I have geared my teaching to build them up on a gradient scale so that they become strong. I suppose someone could say this is a good marketing ploy but for me, it is a reality.

This is great stuff. You should write a book!

 

[Dan Anderson]

Originally posted by arnisador
This is great stuff. You should write a book!

Hmmm...
Now there's a thought.

Dan

 

[Bob Hubbard]

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[thekuntawman]

those are good rules and sounds fair. but i dont know about the "fraud busting" part. i think it should be okay for us to talk about certain people who are misrepresenting the art.

i will post a separate thread about this. but what about people who dont have access to informations finding about what is real and what isnt real in the martial arts? shouldnt they be able to go to a forum like this to ask people? one example is something like the ninja fraud person, who i wont mention his name, who wrote books and pretends to be japanese. shouldnt a student of his, who thinks there is somthing fishy about him, be able to come here and find out his money is being taken?

all the other rules sound very good and will keep this forum professional. plus it will be a good place for kids who study the art to see how adults in the martial arts act, and learn how to act.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Originally posted by thekuntawman
those are good rules and sounds fair. but i dont know about the "fraud busting" part. i think it should be okay for us to talk about certain people who are misrepresenting the art.

i will post a separate thread about this. but what about people who dont have access to informations finding about what is real and what isnt real in the martial arts? shouldnt they be able to go to a forum like this to ask people? one example is something like the ninja fraud person, who i wont mention his name, who wrote books and pretends to be japanese. shouldnt a student of his, who thinks there is somthing fishy about him, be able to come here and find out his money is being taken?

all the other rules sound very good and will keep this forum professional. plus it will be a good place for kids who study the art to see how adults in the martial arts act, and learn how to act.

We didn't say you couldn't ask questions. Our concern is when it starts to disrupt things. Using the psudo-ninja as an example, he is welcome here, as long as he folows our rules. I realize many of our members would wish to confront him and 'prove he is a fake'. That is fine, however it must be done in a way that doesn't turn every thread the person is involved in into a search for legitimacy. That way only causes good threads to turn ugly and get locked, which in turn starts turning people off to the forum.

Eventually, we will endup booting someone, and it may not always be the 'fraud'.

 

[Dan Anderson]

Originally posted by moromoro
hi dan

yes it is very important to teach those who are in need of self protection, this is probably where many have seen arnis / eskrima evolve in the aspect of self defence. But there are still some of us who like to train for pure improvement of our fighting skill although we are getting rare nowadays.

cheers

terry

Yep,
The fighters are getting rare these days but there are more of them than you think.
Dan

 

[arnisador]

I have moved the more recent discussion here.

-Arnisador
-MT Admin-

 

[Rocky]

Not going to comment hear on the racist or cultural thing. I can say that tournament fighting is not really going to make you a good fighter, but it does help in timing endurance and what not. If you wanna get you skills up, I suggest you try some of our play. Fencing mask, unpadded sticks no chest protection, no cup, very light kneepads, and anything goes!! I will be hosting in the fall our "Almost yearly" Motor City Massacre in Detroit. We've been fighting like this since 1984. I use to beg Modern Arnis guys to come and play with us, but Remy more or less told them not to entertain me, oh well their loss. I watched Erwin Ballarta and Tom Bisio when I was a kid go at it in this fashion and I was hooked. Over the years we took it a little farther. Then there is always the Dog Brothers, who I really don't think took it any farther as far as content, but they definnately are more hard core in the fact that they fight a whole lot more than we did. I am sure Crafty Dog or Top Dog would be glad to throw a few whacks your way.

Rocky

 

[Black Grass]

Originally posted by Rocky
...I will be hosting in the fall our "Almost yearly" Motor City Massacre in Detroit. ...

Rocky

Is this by invitation only or a open event. If its open please keep this forum up to date. I for one as a former Windsor boy would love to participate . Hopefully you will get some Modern Arnis guys this time.

regards,

Vince
aka Black Grass

 

[Rocky]

If we can do it a few years ago we were arrested for fighting in a public park. But yes it is open, know cost, just a day of fun, and maybe roast a few hotdogs and have a few cold refreshment when were done, there is no trophies or anything like that, just have fun try out things you maybe working on. And try not to get hurt, or pissed off


Rocky

 

[Datu Tim Hartman]

Beer? If so count me in!