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A.R.K.

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Yes, that is so. Inuendo and biased opinion does not constitute actual fact. Hostile e-mugging even less so. But not everyone can be counted on to be polite I suppose. :rolleyes:

On a different topic;

Akja,

I know it does not matter to you any credentials I have, I think you would be more interested in my ability. I have read your posts with great interest and though we may differ a bit here and there we seem to be on the same sheet of music on the majority. From what I have seen you have solid training and sought out not only peer review but testing from those above you. You chose a medial that others may look down on, but I don't think its keeping you up at night is it? :D The bottom line is what YOU know and what YOU can teach others. And you [and I] followed in the foot steps of those before us.

I began training in the early 70's. Pangai-noon/Uechi-ryu was very prominant in the area. As happens with many styles there are politics and strife from within that filters down to the students occasionally. Uechi-ryu for example has gone thru such strife and continues to do so. The effects of which are not lost on American practitioners, as well as the rest of the world. Many splinter factions have been produced as a result, be it Pangai-noon ryu, Pangai-noon or simply 'Okinawan Karate'. New lines have developed but the techniques for the most part remain the same.

I taught in Incirlik AB, Turkey in 86 as a Nidan to military personell off duty. Even though the system is limited [they all are in some regard], I continued throughout the 90's teaching and progressing. I taught Executive Protection Agents as well as LEO personel as I was now well into a career with the County Sheriff. Ryushikan does make a good point that Police/Corrections is limited to certain state approved techniques & tactics. For example, when I instruct recruits in Academy DT we have to go by F.D.L.E. standards. In-service is different and more advance techniques can be used.

However, LEO are encouraged to seek outside training i.e. Martial Arts. And depending on the technique it can be applied. Perhaps not a kick to the head :D But many techniques can be used in application. For example I teach recruits the 'goose neck' i.e. bent wrist transporter/takedown. The recruit learns the basics of pain compliance with regards to the wrist. That is the extend of this technique in Academy training. However, if I train a Deputy off duty in my school and show him multiple techniques with the wrist he can then justifiably use them on duty. He need merely articulate that do to the principle learned in the academy he applied an appropriate application to the situation.

I recieved my 8th last year, I've already given the name. There has been a separation taken place due to things that are no ones business except us. Although I am constrained by ethics [I am a Deputy] and my personal morales [I am a Christian] I wish this man the best and will not speak ill of him. And my reluctance to subject his name to those here who quite frankly have a hard on for me is out of respect. A particular individual here seems to take great delight in smearing people justly or unjustly. Skeletons his closet do not reflect on me nor did they effect my training. However I have discontinued any desure to advancement nor do I see it as possible would I want to do to politics above me. If I'm being too vauge for some's taste...to bad, don't care. My training is sound and that is the bottom line.

Shuri Te was taught to me by my friend Robert Harmer and he honored me with Shodan. We were in the Academy together in 1990. I was forced to discontinue contiuous training with him in 95 due to an accident that disabled my wife. But continued personal training as best I could with others of similar Okinawan styles. He and I got together as best we could when the times were appropriate. It also gave me the opportunity to flesh out ZDW. I had begun teahing it in 95 just prior to her accident in that system although it was in it's infancy and incomplete. It was not even named.

I was granted Godan from Michael Dunn who has extensive experience in Okinawan styles. Although some differences in forms, the techniques were similar. And to be honest, I'm no longer big on forms. It was in person btw. If anyone has a problem with this, to bad. I had a very good understanding of the system by Shodan, the rest is ability, time in grade etc. Agree or disagree, its a mute point.

As an Police Instructor I have the unique opportunity to train with those people I once only read about in magazines. S.E.P.S.I. has people come in to train advanced courses throughout the year. People like Moti Horenstein, Hunan Yadin, Peter Boatman, Gracie etc. Also I have the opportunity to go to seminars with people like Joe Hess etc. Doesn't make me special in the slightest, but it presents me opportunites that take advantage of at every opportunity. I anyone here wishes to question my role and involvement in Police training I'll refer you to the training section Sgt. and he will be more than happy to fill you in on my LEO training background. It's listed in short form on my bio and at length on my site.

Again, the DOES NOT make me special! It makes me blessed. I am fortunate to have come into contact with so many fine folks throughout my MA and LEO career.

Last year I accepted invitation to become the Florida Representative for the KYHA and I gladly accepted. It opened up alot of doors for training and fellowship with alot of fine people around the world. Btw the Ph.D is legite not mail ordered as someone with absolutely NO knowledge made the implication. I could see this type of behavior from someone living near an individual that new FIRSTHAND there was something questionable. But for someone living on the other side of the planet, who has NO knowledge whatsoever to be a smart ***, to make unsubstantiated inuenos is ridiculous.

The reason I chose to respond with some background highlights to YOU Akja is because you had enough respect and courtesy not to e-mugg me the first day I said 'hi'. You didn't become antagonistic in your first post to me and then follow it up with TEN posts, minutes apart in which you became more and more hostile without even giving me the chance to reply to the FIRST one. You have expressed a level of maturity, as have many others here, that was not present in a small hand full here.

And I want you and the others to know I appreciate you not jumping down my throat from day one. I want you and others to know I appreciate being made welcome here to learn and contribute, cause maybe...just maybe I do have something to contribute :) I think you might know how I feel about being on the defensive from the start...

This may not be my life history all the way back to kindergarden but it is the most I feel the need to share at this time with people, most of which, I don't know. As I get to know some better I will open up more and share experiences. But to those that just feel the need to be arrogant, antagonistic and unprofessional...have a nice day :cool:

I am confident in my training and in my ability to teach. I have been doing so since the 80's. I have earned the respect of men who have vastly more experience than I. I seek continually to improve. I seek continually to fellowship. If there are some here that don't want to receive that fellowship then so be it. But considering the amount of PM's and personal email I have received there are those here I can fellowship with. I consider you amoung them.

I will pay you the highest compliment I can...If I were not an instructor and lived in your area I would seek to have you as an instructor.

I now return you to the reguarly scheduled program :D

Take care.

P.S. Please excuse the numerous typos, I was in a hurry. Thanks.
 
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Zhao Dai Wei,
I accepted what you were saying because I not only heard you, I was listening. I've been to your site and your place in American martial arts is well deserved. Actually you've given us more info on yourself than most of the accusers have given us on themselves!:D

People in other parts of the world and here too are always going to discredit us for anything we do. Who cares. I have a student who was fortunate enough to be trained by an old Thai fighter from Thailand. Yet this guy asked me to train him because he wants to be a cage fighter. Why did he come to me? It wasn't for a certificate, thats for sure!:D

Everybody has somebody to blame and pick on, thats fine for them. But while they are trying to figure what to say next I'm still going to be teaching fighters to fight! :D
 
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RyuShiKan

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Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei

I recieved my 8th last year, I've already given the name.

What was that name again? I think I missed it………
 
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A.R.K.

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What was that name again? I think I missed it………

Thats odd, I emailed you a novel's worth. You didn't think much of it as I recalled. You have made up your mind about me so I doubt there is little that I can do to change it.

I think I'll just be nice and pleasant to you and when you try to rip me a new one....I'll just still be nice and pleasant to you.

Have a wonderful day. Looking forward to learning much from you :)
 
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RyuShiKan

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Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
Thats odd, I emailed you a novel's worth. You didn't think much of it as I recalled. You have made up your mind about me so I doubt there is little that I can do to change it.

Shall I post the email you sent me and let others try and figure out the answer to my 3 questions?
Maybe they can figure out where you wrote the answers because my dumb Cajun *** sure couldn't.

This is going to be like that game called “Where’s Wally?”
Things to try and find:

Where/who he got an 8th dan from.

Which organization in Kobe granted him a Soke title.

Which Okinawans are teaching Shurte ryu in Okinawa

This is the message from Zhao Dai Wei........good luck:

Is it really going to satisfy you? To you I'm just an 'over-ranked yank'. You haven't shown me the least little courtesy. You disregard anything positive I have said to you. You disregard any courtesy I have extended to you. You ignore the names of those GM's that I have listed above me. You are welcome to contact GM Stern at any time. He knows me, he's flying in to teach the ILMAM/GCMAG seminar on the 22nd for children's charity. He felt confident enough in my credentials to ask me to be the Florida representative for the KYHA. He knows the people I have listed and he knows that they know me.

Before I met any of them I didn't know ther was the word Soke. I didn't care, and still don't. If it is wrong then it is because those WAY above me are wrong, however I respect them. They gave me the title of Grandmaster because of who I've trained under, what I've accomplished etc. Give me SOME credit, I don't have a McDojo. I don't scam people, I made $170 extra this month on karate do help support myself and my family. I have to because my wife is disabled and we are one income. So I teach what I can on the side and teach in the Police academy in every area other than driving. It keeps me from my family sometimes for days because I still work my normal duty hours at the jail, but I have NO choice. So cut me some slack partner. I'm not Hitler, I'm not some scam artist, I'm not 'ruining' the good name of Martial Arts.

When I developed Zhao Dai Wei I had a choice, wave a wand and say I'm a 25th degree BB or try to go to those that ARE my betters and say 'please help me'. I have never played politics and don't know the first thing about how to. I have been fortunate to come in contact with several gentlemen who are down right decent human beings. They have more experience and put me in contact with heads of systems/organizations. One was the KYHA. Pappasan has almost 60 years in the MA's. He trained with/under people like Mas Oyama. He has ties to Japan, Korea, Saudi etc. Instead of me saying I'm this or that I sought out the wisdom and direction of people of this stature. They looked at me and what I had with a microscope. My system is registered in Kobe, Souel and Rydlk [sp?]. I have all the 'wall candy' in two boxes in the back of my closet so I don't have all the info you want at this time, but I do have it, I'm not lying to you. Why is it in boxes in my closet, because hanging them on a wall does not effect who I am or what I know. I have solid technique and have taught people in a manner that truly has saved their lives.

Brad was my Sensei [I don't call people master in regards to myself because only Jesus Christ is my master]. The rank is valid, I hesitated because their are...personal issues involved afterward that I wish to remain behind closed doors. I will go no further in this area becuase it is of a delicate nature and I wish to bring no disrespect to anyone above me.

I was granted a Shodan in Shuri Te by Robert Harmer. Because of work schedule differences our training times differed. Also the accident that disabled my wife occured shortly afterwards. My training continued with many others along the way. All American. I have no ties to Okinawa in this discipline. Shortly after meeting Michael Dunn I asked him to test me. He is not Shuri but is Goju and earned his rank in Okinawa while stationed there...the HARD WAY. Does he know ALL the kata associated with Shuri, no not all. But all the kata was completed by Shodan for me. The rest was time in grade, skill proficiency etc. He is a registered Master as well with the Kukkiwan. Not that this has anything to do with Shuri but to say both his Dan's come straight from oriental dojo's. He looked at all of my stuff but was more concerned with practical application than form because of similar backgrounds i.e. military and LEO. The techniques he and I use are extremely similar. He has associates that are in the shuri arena as well and is very familar. So I got Godan from him. If you wish to blast me on it..well there is your ammo.

Just for fyi, I have given up progression in both disciplines because of my focus on ZDW. I honesty don't care about 'rank' and rarely wear it. It is on my site the way it is, not for my ego [ I lost that years ago] for the edification of my students. If something is wrong i.e. Soke then I take the hit on it. I'm not Japanese but have attempted to give ZDW 'some' flavor' out of respect for those before me. Trust me, I'm not in it for the money and I am not some evil bastard, and I do desire peace between us.
 
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My friend, you do whatever will make you happy. I'm pretty much done doing the tango with you. So I think I'll just be a happy camper regardless of whatever is said. I said in the beginnign I was hear to fellowship....and I've made a fair start with some folks. I'm gonna keep the trend going.

Take care.
 
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RyuShiKan

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Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
My friend, you do whatever will make you happy. I'm pretty much done doing the tango with you. So I think I'll just be a happy camper regardless of whatever is said. I said in the beginnign I was hear to fellowship....and I've made a fair start with some folks. I'm gonna keep the trend going.

Take care.


That's run away............:rolleyes:
 

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Brad was my Sensei [I don't call people master in regards to myself because only Jesus Christ is my master]. The rank is valid, I hesitated because their are...personal issues involved afterward that I wish to remain behind closed doors. I will go no further in this area becuase it is of a delicate nature and I wish to bring no disrespect to anyone above me.

Ok, so so far we know that some guy named "Brad" was your sensei. How informative. And how convenient that there are "personal issues" surrounding this rank. If there are real issues with the rank, don't claim it. If there aren't, then elaborate.

My first rule of looking for a teacher is this: If he keeps his training history a secret, then don't train under him. Simple as that. If someone isn't willing to share their training past, then it's probably because it isn't worth mentioning it.

The basic idea is this: claim whatever rank you like. No-one with any legitimate experience will take you seriously unless you provide decent background that can be verified.

Now that I've said that, I'm going to lurk in the background for a bit longer.
 
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A.R.K.

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No-one with any legitimate experience will take you seriously unless you provide decent background that can be verified

My credentials have already been checked and verified with organizations like the KYHA. It is one of the largest and oldest in this country. It has strict standards and it's membership has fine, solid men.

Don't need to prove anything here to you or anyone after the shabby way I was treated for saying 'HI'.

If anyone here doesn't like it....to bad so sad :rolleyes: Those that have run off at the mouth are not people I would associate with anyway. I fellowship with professionals not internet wannabes.

Btw, I HAVE opened up to some here privately that I have found courteous. I have shared some solid information as well publically. Those who continue to flame me have lost the benefit of such information. But considering the amount of email/PM I have received it hasn't been lost on everyone. There are professionals here with a winning mind set. And I'm glad and humbled to know them now.

Peace and love.
 
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RyuShiKan

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Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
My credentials have already been checked and verified with organizations like the KYHA. It is one of the largest and oldest in this country.

So which is it……….are you recognized by the bogus nonexistent organization in Kobe, Japan or by this KY whatchmacallit?

Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
It has strict standards and it's membership has fine, solid men.

Sounds like a Viagra commercial.

Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
Don't need to prove anything here to you or anyone after the shabby way I was treated for saying 'HI'.

yet another excuse……..

Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei
I fellowship with professionals not internet wannabes.

How do you live with yourself then?


Ya know………..you could have nipped this in the bud by just posting your credentials with the info asked for about 50 posts ago and it would have all been forgotten by now.
However, since you didn’t and continue to side step and baulk when asked to produce your claims will always be suspect.
 
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Originally posted by Zhao Dai Wei


Don't need to prove anything here to you or anyone after the shabby way I was treated for saying 'HI'.


I agree that does come across like an excuse for not answering. Everyone is welcome on this site as far as I know But for a first post you put some pretty interesting stuff that was bound to cause arguments. I would have waited till you know the people and the kind of reactions you would get THEN put up the confrontational stuff. Just me I guess.....:shrug:
 
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My credentials have already been checked and verified with organizations like the KYHA. It is one of the largest and oldest in this country. It has strict standards and it's membership has fine, solid men.

...and so, you should be proud to post them here...to be counted among them as an excellent teacher...

Why are you so reluctant to post the information?

I am not interested in the excuse that you were treated unfairly...you have a chance to clear everything up; yet, you persist in NOT providing information...

Quite frankly, I don't care that you started your own system...
I don't care if you charge $1.00 or $100.00 dollars a month for lessons...
I hope your students are getting what they pay for...but, I would like to know WHO promoted you...

If you choose to reply...please, no more whining about how unfairly you've been treated...answer the question...or not...if not, that will be enough...I don't need excuses OR your insistance that someone else PROVE your credentials don't exist...since you've never produced them here, the only way anyone could say they don't exist is to come to your school and ransack through everything there...and then go to your home and ransack through everything there...and then the BEST they could say is that the credentials aren't at the school or the residence...

It almsot seems that you are embarrassed to tell us who promoted you...I don't get it.

peace, love, etc.
:asian:
chufeng
 
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A.R.K.

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No, just pissed off at the crappy treatment and lack of opportunity at the beginning to offer clarification. Thats not whinning that is fact. I was raped over a barrel by some hot headed folks.

So be it. I have posted a reply in the other thread.
 

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Dont you get tired of being bashed by these people...........



Hard training breeds warriors......
 
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Originally posted by DAC..florida
Dont you get tired of being bashed by these people...........


I get tired of seeing people that claim bloated dan ranks & Soke titles & PhDs with dubious qualifications to support such ranks and titles.
 
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A.R.K.

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D.A.C.

Yes I do. But I have no control over what another person thinks, feels or says. I can only live who I am.

Btw, give me a PM some time and tell me what agency your with. I'm P.C.S.O.
 

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