What's so harsh about those laws? Simple regulation, common sense measures to me… That is true. Actually, yes, it is that. And the fact that you don't seem to be able to recognise exactly why that's a problem. You're actively promoting your ideas as valid and worthwhile to the discussion, your suggestions as being worthy of consideration, even though you freely admit you don't know anything about the subject beyond what your personal values tell you. Does that really seem like it's a good idea? I'll put it this way… I've done boxing, BJJ, and other things… but let's pretend I haven't for a second… if I was to say that, in an MMA match, all you need is to poke people in the eye with your thumb, because "it's only real when it's no rules", and you'd win every time… hell, Brock Lesnar is no match for a simple flesh grab to the inner thigh, he'll go down like a bag of cement, trust me… based on completely uneducated values, would you let that go in an MMA forum? That's how you come across here… and that's why your lack of knowledge and awareness is a problem… and your lack of acknowledgement of the issue is your mistake. You think your opinion is valid. It's not. That's your misunderstanding. You think that's the real issue? Look, neither myself, nor Paul are under any misapprehension that we will engage some epic clash of blades in the street (considering where Hyoho lives, he's got a much higher probability… but still won't engage in a duel with a rival samurai, of course). No. The issue with the poor technique is that it's dangerous. Dangerous to the blade, dangerous to the user, dangerous to anyone around. No, we're not. To use a far more accurate analogy, we're doctors identifying medical problems, diagnosing, and treating them, even if we've never suffered from the maladies ourselves. You're a guy who's looked up symptoms online and thinks he knows how to diagnose himself. Only if you think that the only relevance can be engaging in a duel with a samurai. And, if you think that, you really have no place trying to argue with us. Really? How do you know that? I can point to any number of aspects of my sword training that I've relied on, successfully and in differing contexts… they may not have been physical confrontations with live blades, but that's hardly the reason I train in these arts. You really can't get past this tiny idea of what you think training in a sword art is about, can you? Here are some classical ideas for you… 兵法は平法なり… the methods of war become the methods of peace (Tenshinsho Den Katori Shinto Ryu) 殺人剣活人剣… the sword that kills, the sword that gives life (Yagyu Munenori, Yagyu Shinkage Ryu) Swordsmanship training, even "back in the day", wasn't always necessarily about killing people… in fact, the exact opposite is espoused by many systems. This isn't about elitism, or wanting to keep anyone out of our "club"… it's about safety, as well as presenting the best advice we can offer. You genuinely don't know what you're talking about here… Here's the thing. Paul mentioned it as well, but I'm going to re-iterate. This is a martial arts forum. It's a place where you go to have discussions with practitioners and instructors, gain insight and information, and learn. More to the point, this is the Japanese Sword Art forum. A forum dedicated to Japanese sword arts, practices, history, and so on… and, to that end, we will be rather concerned with presenting correct information, and good advice… after all, PhotonGuy might be able to swing around a cheap knock-off blade without injury, but how about the other young, inexperienced kids who might read it? I'm hardly about to give advice that you can get away with a cheaper blade, incredibly dangerous techniques and practices, and more, when I don't know who might hear it. After all, if you give bad advice about boxing, MMA, BJJ or so on, and someone takes it, they might lose a fight… get a black eye or split lip… maybe get knocked out. If we give bad advice, and someone takes it, they might lose body parts… or worse. Probably the best (worst?) example found online is the case of Don Rice… he was fairly experienced with swords, but self taught in Iai, and lost concentration one day… and… well… I'll let you read. Make sure you check out the photos on the second page, and perhaps you'll see why we are so definite in not giving out advice that can lead to injury: Why the best piece of advice is "Get an Instructor" WARNING--DISTURBING PHOTOS ON P.2 A cheaper option is not the problem. Bad advice, based on a complete lack of knowledge, understanding, and experience is. Arguing with the people you acknowledge as having expertise because you have some warped idea of the value of your opinion doesn't help you. Er… no. That's not the same token at all… Some may, but that's not exactly the reasoning for much training in (particularly) Koryu sword arts… but that's taking us in another direction. Really? Then you might want to work on how you come across, because it really seems like you have nothing but a lack of respect for such practices… No, you're getting advice on horse riding from people who have raised horses, broken them, ridden them, stabled them, and grown up with them… but never rode them in the Kentucky Derby (or Melbourne Cup, for us). The fact that you can't see the distinction is a big part of why your "advice" is so out of place.