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Matt do you have the Dragon Tree Blocking System? I have it written down and can post it or email it to ya. Also i was shown the 10 point with strikes do you have this?
Kosho


I don't think I've heard of either of those - by all means, please do send or post them.
I'd love to see it.
Thanks,

Matt
 

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Matt here is the 10 point with strikes as I learned it. hope you can under stand it and if not I can do a video and mail it to ya..
Kosho


The starting is the same. your hands go down then

circle up. at that point you deliver a left and right

driving shuto's to the attackers colar bone. you then

drop you hands down about half way and circle around

and deliver a left and a right spear hand pokes the

the attackers side of his neck. your hands then drop

and circle as they come up again and you do blocks 1

and 2 with your leapord paws faceing awayfrom you. you

then deliver a left and a right shuto to the attackers

sides of his neck. ( same time ) your hands then drop

a left and right willow's palms the the attackers

chest area. your hands then drop down and cross again.

now you hands go to the right side of you into cup and

saucer and you then deliver to you left side the

tiger press ( same as normal 10 point here ) and same

on the other side ( as you would do in 10 point )

your hands come up and cross again and you bring then

up as you would do normally you then reach out and

grab the attackers colar bone area ( both hands )and

pull the attacker into a head butt into the attackers

nose. the finish the 10 point as you would surpported

1 block circle and press and same with 2 block circle

and press the finish as you would.
 

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10 point with natural strikes like in the 8 point? That would be great to see. Before i go looking, Kosho, is your place in Jaffrey?
Jesse


Jaffrey No that would be my Teacher Master John Evans.
www.evanskempo.com

I am in Orange Ma, www.shaolinkempotraining.com
I am also listed under the family tree by Shihan Ingargiola
www.shaolinkempo.com
Also under Hanshi Bruce Juchnik in kosho Ryu kempo

Take care
Kosho
 
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Matt here is the 10 point with strikes as I learned it. hope you can under stand it and if not I can do a video and mail it to ya..
Kosho


The starting is the same. your hands go down then

circle up. at that point you deliver a left and right

driving shuto's to the attackers colar bone. you then

drop you hands down about half way and circle around

and deliver a left and a right spear hand pokes the

the attackers side of his neck. your hands then drop

and circle as they come up again and you do blocks 1

and 2 with your leapord paws faceing awayfrom you. you

then deliver a left and a right shuto to the attackers

sides of his neck. ( same time ) your hands then drop

a left and right willow's palms the the attackers

chest area. your hands then drop down and cross again.

now you hands go to the right side of you into cup and

saucer and you then deliver to you left side the

tiger press ( same as normal 10 point here ) and same

on the other side ( as you would do in 10 point )

your hands come up and cross again and you bring then

up as you would do normally you then reach out and

grab the attackers colar bone area ( both hands )and

pull the attacker into a head butt into the attackers

nose. the finish the 10 point as you would surpported

1 block circle and press and same with 2 block circle

and press the finish as you would.

Thanks so much- I'll get it in the archive ASAP. Just out of curiosity, where did you learn this one?

Matt
 

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10 point with natural strikes like in the 8 point? That would be great to see. Before i go looking, Kosho, is your place in Jaffrey?
Jesse

Jaffrey No that would be my Teacher Master John Evans.
www.evanskempo.com

I am in Orange Ma, www.shaolinkempotraining.com
I am also listed under the family tree by Shihan Ingargiola
www.shaolinkempo.com
Also under Hanshi Bruce Juchnik in kosho Ryu kempo

Take care
Kosho

OK, i new there was a connection there. You were doing a joint weekend seminar, has this come and gone? I have a place in Jaffrey (summer -been in the family since 1800's - finally got hot water) and this summer i was going to try and find the Jaffrey location and meet up. I am not under Shihan Ingargiola's family tree but i am under his teachers tree as well as Matt
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Thanks so much- I'll get it in the archive ASAP. Just out of curiosity, where did you learn this one?

Jean Louis Arseneau he is now out of gardner ma.
he showed me the 10 point block w/ strikes.

kosho
 

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OK, i new there was a connection there. You were doing a joint weekend seminar, has this come and gone? I have a place in Jaffrey (summer -been in the family since 1800's - finally got hot water) and this summer i was going to try and find the Jaffrey location and meet up. I am not under Shihan Ingargiola's family tree but i am under his teachers tree as well as Matt
Jesse


the weekend training with Sensei Pat Kelly is march 31, 2007 in orange ma and 4/1/07 in jaffery nh. there is still time to come. the cost is $130.00 for more info go to www.shaolinkempotraining.com
go to event and click there. there is a deal for school owners there also.
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OK, i new there was a connection there. You were doing a joint weekend seminar, has this come and gone? I have a place in Jaffrey (summer -been in the family since 1800's - finally got hot water) and this summer i was going to try and find the Jaffrey location and meet up. I am not under Shihan Ingargiola's family tree but i am under his teachers tree as well as Matt
Jesse

the weekend training with Sensei Pat Kelly is march 31, 2007 in orange ma and 4/1/07 in jaffery nh. there is still time to come. the cost is $130.00 for more info go to www.shaolinkempotraining.com
go to event and click there. there is a deal for school owners there also.
kosho

If i remember the flyer you could do only one day if needed. I will try for sunday. In NY now.
Jesse
 
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Thanks so much- I'll get it in the archive ASAP. Just out of curiosity, where did you learn this one?

Jean Louis Arseneau he is now out of gardner ma.
he showed me the 10 point block w/ strikes.

kosho

Excellent, thanks. I was curious, as I'd never heard of it before which surprised me. It's up now.

Matt
 

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They might be in referrance to sword forms. They are in the USSD system. I have both of them if that's what they mean...Also, do you have Pine Tree Blocking or 16 Palms blocking on there? I have Master's Blocking system if you want it...


Matt, do you have pine tree blocking system. i remember Shihan Bryant giving a semianr in which he taught a club defense using a block from what he called the pine tree blocking system...so i guess technically i have one of the blocks but would love the whole system. I have a dragon blocking system from Prof. I, is that the one you have?

Respectfully,
Marlon
 
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Matt, do you have pine tree blocking system. i remember Shihan Bryant giving a semianr in which he taught a club defense using a block from what he called the pine tree blocking system...so i guess technically i have one of the blocks but would love the whole system. I have a dragon blocking system from Prof. I, is that the one you have?

Respectfully,
Marlon

Was that a 'Cape Cod' seminar? I think I remember. I've heard of the 'pine tree', but don't have it. I don't have a dragon blocking system, that was a request I was forwarding from someone who had sent me some material and then an answer from 'kosho'.

If you have it, I'd love to add it to the new 'Blocking System' section.

Due to a recent submission of two new sets and a second variation by Sifu Bryan Bagnas of Golden Leopard Kempo , the blocking system section has become so robust as to deserve its own page. We now have pages for: the 8 point (three variations), the ten point (including a set with strikes), the palm blocking set, the twelve hands of the tiger (two writeups!), the plum tree and the "Masters' Set".
 

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Matt,
I will post it tonight when I get home from work.
kosho
 
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Matt,
I will post it tonight when I get home from work.
kosho

Great - thank you (yet again!). I'll try to get on it tomorrow, as I've got an exam tomorrow that I'm supposed to be studying for right now. :whip1:

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DRAGON BLOCKING SYSTEM

start in front position. you bow and step out (R) leg.
hands come up and are open you deliver pressing motions
out (L) hand just higer then (R) and at shoulder length.
then hands come in and (R) is just higher then (L) and press out.
then hands come in and (L) is just higher then (R) and press out.
then hands come in and (R) is just higher then (L) and press out.
hands come back in and you turn your body 45 degrees to your (Left side)
you do open hands with your (R) hand at center and your (L) hand pressing
in towards your (R) elbow area. ( like a trapping motion )
hands come back in and you then turn 45 degrees towards your (right side)
you do open hands with your (L) hand at center and your (R) hand pressing
in towards your (L) elbow area. ( like a trapping motion )
hands come back in and you turn your body 45 degrees to your (left side )
you do open hands with your (r) hand at center and your (L) hand pressing
in towards your elbow area. ( like a trapping motion )
hands come back in and you then turn 45 degrees towards your (Right side)
you do open hands with your (L) hand at center and your (R) hand pressing
in towards your (L) elbow area. ( like a trapping motion ).
you then face forward and do a pressing motion out in front of you.
(r) hand just higher then (L). press out
hands come in you do open hands with your (l) just higher then (R) press out.
hands come in and you do (R) hand just higher then (L) hand press out.
hands come in and you do a (L) hand just higher then (R). press out.
you then bring your hands in and turn them so you palms are faceing up now.
you then have (R) just higher then (L) press out.
hands come in with your (L) just higher then (R). press out
hands come in with your (R) just higher then (L). press out
hands come in with your (l) just higher then (R). press out
then your hands roll in front of your self end in peace covers war.
your hands then drop down to your sides and bow.

Kosho
 
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DRAGON BLOCKING SYSTEM

start in front position. you bow and step out (R) leg.
hands come up and are open you deliver pressing motions
out (L) hand just higer then (R) and at shoulder length.
then hands come in and (R) is just higher then (L) and press out.
then hands come in and (L) is just higher then (R) and press out.
then hands come in and (R) is just higher then (L) and press out.
hands come back in and you turn your body 45 degrees to your (Left side)
you do open hands with your (R) hand at center and your (L) hand pressing
in towards your (R) elbow area. ( like a trapping motion )
hands come back in and you then turn 45 degrees towards your (right side)
you do open hands with your (L) hand at center and your (R) hand pressing
in towards your (L) elbow area. ( like a trapping motion )
hands come back in and you turn your body 45 degrees to your (left side )
you do open hands with your (r) hand at center and your (L) hand pressing
in towards your elbow area. ( like a trapping motion )
hands come back in and you then turn 45 degrees towards your (Right side)
you do open hands with your (L) hand at center and your (R) hand pressing
in towards your (L) elbow area. ( like a trapping motion ).
you then face forward and do a pressing motion out in front of you.
(r) hand just higher then (L). press out
hands come in you do open hands with your (l) just higher then (R) press out.
hands come in and you do (R) hand just higher then (L) hand press out.
hands come in and you do a (L) hand just higher then (R). press out.
you then bring your hands in and turn them so you palms are faceing up now.
you then have (R) just higher then (L) press out.
hands come in with your (L) just higher then (R). press out
hands come in with your (R) just higher then (L). press out
hands come in with your (l) just higher then (R). press out
then your hands roll in front of your self end in peace covers war.
your hands then drop down to your sides and bow.

Kosho


Thank you, yet again. If you get a chance, I'll take you up on the video offer.

Dragon blocking system is up. I gave it a minor edit here and there.

Matt
 

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I'm glad to see the Dragon Blocking set up. I heard about so much material, it's nice to see it exists somewhere. Are there any other rumors of rare material out there?

The one I heard back in '94 was the existance of other two man forms like the Two Man soft fist set. The SKK master at the time said that was 1 of 12. I lost contact with that master the next year. Anyone heard of that too?

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I'm glad to see the Dragon Blocking set up. I heard about so much material, it's nice to see it exists somewhere. Are there any other rumors of rare material out there?

The one I heard back in '94 was the existance of other two man forms like the Two Man soft fist set. The SKK master at the time said that was 1 of 12. I lost contact with that master the next year. Anyone heard of that too?

Sifu Bry


i have it from someone who knows that the nenglis forms fit together at one point but GM Villari stopped teaching it that way because too many people got caught up in the intricacies of fitting it together and paid little attention to what the form was supposed to teach. I have not heard of any others but I think someone once said that GM Villari has 54 forms but limited the curricullum because that many forms was too cumbersome

respectfully,
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At one time the form did fit together. You were taught both sides separate then together. The problem was that the two sides had to be altered a little in order for it to work correctly. Once placed placed together correctly it looked good. Many used it for a demo form.
 

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Many years ago there were 2 young men from my school that had Nenglis North & South down very well. They were the only 2 in my school that really could perform it...I had been taught only the Northern side and over time it was left to be forgotten, no longer being a "requirement" Too bad I thought it was a very nice form.
The 2 were Manny & Adolpho....some of you may have known them. I recently learned that Manny had passed away a few years ago. He was a talented MA but more importantly I knew him to be a very good person. I am sure he is sorely missed.
Peace.
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Two new articles have been added, and thanks to Ken Warner of Evolution Karate we've had a huge influx of combinations.

What we have, what we need:
Have (88 total):
1-78
80,81, 85, 87-90
93,94,96

Need (20 total):

79
82-84, 86
91-92
95
97-108

As always, if you have one from the 'need' list, please send it in. We're really close at this point.

Matt
 

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