Self Defense & Martial Arts Confusions and Misconceptions

[JowGaWolf]

Trying a new approach here. The following quote is a component of self-defense.

"He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight."
- Sun Tzu

 

[Tez3]

Trying a new approach here. The following quote is a component of self-defense.

He will win who knows when to fight and when not to fight.
- Sun Tzu

Sun Tzu of course is studied by the modern military. Royal Military Academy Sandhurst (RMAS): Leadership Lessons Case Study | Leadership Case Studies

 

[Tez3]

it makes a difference as I wasn't talking about soldiers

Of course not, you were talking boiled eggs ( they go lovely with soldiers)

 

[JowGaWolf]

This is similar to de-escalation tactics where we say or do thing that makes the person feel uncomfortable about attacking.

"If we do not wish to fight, we can prevent the enemy from engaging us even though the lines of our encampment be merely traced out on the ground. All we need do is to throw something odd and unaccountable in his way."
-Sun Tzu

 

[Midnight-shadow]

Sun Tzu of course is studied by the modern military. Royal Military Academy Sandhurst (RMAS): Leadership Lessons Case Study | Leadership Case Studies

The Art of War is also studied by business students.....

Six Principles of Sun Tzu & the Art of Business – Sun Tzu Strategies

 

[JowGaWolf]

Sun Tzu of course is studied by the modern military. Royal Military Academy Sandhurst (RMAS): Leadership Lessons Case Study | Leadership Case Studies

I thought it was fitting since someone brought up soldiers as not being relevant. I feel comfortable with this since, one would need to argue with Sun Tzu about the quote lol.

 

[drop bear]

I thought it was fitting since someone brought up soldiers as not being relevant. I feel comfortable with this since, one would need to argue with Sun Tzu about the quote lol.

No but we will suggest we are the ones interpreting it correctly.

 

[drop bear]

Better thought. If fighting strategy is also deescalation and business strategy.

Are we learning these soft skills by learning fighting?

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Better thought. If fighting strategy is also deescalation and business strategy.

Are we learning these soft skills by learning fighting?

To some extent, I think so. I make an effort to make it more than accidental learning, but there's a definite link between soft skills and what we learn about fighting.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Better thought. If fighting strategy is also deescalation and business strategy.

Are we learning these soft skills by learning fighting?

Probably.
There are also arguments or strong disagreements that happen in the work place among employees as well as customers where deescalation skills are a business strategy. Especially in customer service.

 

[KenpoMaster805]

Self defense is part of the competition know in all martial arts tournament theres UFC is not a comeptititon its a sport and cometition at same time

 

[Midnight-shadow]

Self defense is part of the competition know in all martial arts tournament theres UFC is not a comeptititon its a sport and cometition at same time

What's the difference between a competition and a sport?

 

[drop bear]

What's the difference between a competition and a sport?

A sport is codified. a competition is not. If we both go after the same girl it is a competition. But not a sport.

 

[Tez3]

If we both go after the same girl it is a competition.

Probably not the best analogy. There really are rules in this too, you may not know them but the girl definitely does!

 

[drop bear]

Probably not the best analogy. There really are rules in this too, you may not know them but the girl definitely does!

Yeah. date the bigger duchebag.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

A sport is codified. a competition is not. If we both go after the same girl it is a competition. But not a sport.

So, how would you define the difference within a MA context? I've always considered "a competition" (an event) as a part of sport - the thing that competitors train for, whereas "competition" (no article attached) can occur within normal training.

 

[jobo]

To some extent, I think so. I make an effort to make it more than accidental learning, but there's a definite link between soft skills and what we learn about fighting.

only from the point of view that's its far easier to de escalate a fight from a position of strength

 

[Gerry Seymour]

only from the point of view that's its far easier to de escalate a fight from a position of strength

That is one part of it. There's more than that - there are many lessons from MA that translate well to other areas of life.

 

[Juany118]

That is one part of it. There's more than that - there are many lessons from MA that translate well to other areas of life.

Exactly, such as how to avoid a circumstance where deescalation is needed in the first place, how to flow and adapt to dynamic situations vs trying to, for lack of a better term, pound a square peg into a round hole. Sometimes I think MAs are essentially an allegory for life itself.

 

[jobo]

Exactly, such as how to avoid a circumstance where deescalation is needed in the first place, how to flow and adapt to dynamic situations vs trying to, for lack of a better term, pound a square peg into a round hole. Sometimes I think MAs are essentially an allegory for life itself.

but there are many lessons from chess or table tennis that translate in to real life as well