Read this and tell me what you think? (read the whole thing though)
http://www.theselfdefenseco.com/about_self_defense.asp
http://www.theselfdefenseco.com/about_self_defense.asp
Sdts?
- Thread starter Brian R. VanCise
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Come on Brian with little traces of stuff like this it has to be real...
Develop Awesome Power with the 3-Count Chop Drill in Module 1
Discover the Destroy-All Power of the Chin Jab in Module 1
Knock 'Em Silly With The Double Forearm Shiver from Module 4
Master Killer Combat Throws in Module 10
This ain't The UFC.
Discover the REAL 'Ground and Pound, in Module 3
Uncover Forbidden Tactics in Module 11
and then every few line he has this...
I mean I am sold already. :erg:
Develop Awesome Power with the 3-Count Chop Drill in Module 1
Discover the Destroy-All Power of the Chin Jab in Module 1
Knock 'Em Silly With The Double Forearm Shiver from Module 4
Master Killer Combat Throws in Module 10
This ain't The UFC.
Discover the REAL 'Ground and Pound, in Module 3
Uncover Forbidden Tactics in Module 11
and then every few line he has this...
I mean I am sold already. :erg:
OP
- Thread Starter
- #3
You have to love that banner. (ha,ha, ha)
I just cannot believe the marketing schemes people are employing now a days.
In the end I find it rather pathetic!
I just cannot believe the marketing schemes people are employing now a days.
In the end I find it rather pathetic!
I think I'm sick.
The "cardinal rules" aren't bad... The hype? It's just hype...
Ahhhhh...my eyes, my eyes, my eyes. LOL! Sorry Brian, got about half way down the page, and just couldn't take it anymore. (I'll probably go back just for a laugh and read a bit more, but after the first few lines, the BS meter redlined! LOL!
Seriously though...IMHO, I dont see anything the jumped out at me, that would make me go 'ohhh and ahhh' and decide to leave the arts that I do, to do something like this. This guy reminds me of some folks that used to post right on this very forum. You know, the ones who come on, talk a big game, making it sound like they created this new art, with knowledge that nobody else in the world has, yet when they're questioned on things, they take offense, grab their toys, and leave....mainly because people here are not falling for the garbage.
Hard to tell if there's anything of worth in there...all my bovine scatalogical alarm bells are going off though. :BSmeter: That's enough to keep me from going much further with the product.
I guess I'll just have to remain an ignorant pansy in danger from all the scum of the earth...it's a miracle I'm not raped, beaten and then eaten by rabid wolverines when I step out my door....
:shrug:
Peace,
Erik
I guess I'll just have to remain an ignorant pansy in danger from all the scum of the earth...it's a miracle I'm not raped, beaten and then eaten by rabid wolverines when I step out my door....
:shrug:
Peace,
Erik
C'mon... I'm sure he's done a first rate job repackaging stuff like Rex Applegate's Kill or Get Killed.... After all, he's not spending money on t-shirts; he says so on his website!
(Oh, and being 2nd runner up at the Bando Kickboxing Nationals... He didn't make it to the finals. Probably lost his first fight... I'd love to know what year that was. :EG: )
(Oh, and being 2nd runner up at the Bando Kickboxing Nationals... He didn't make it to the finals. Probably lost his first fight... I'd love to know what year that was. :EG: )
David43515
Master Black Belt
I don`t like the hype in his advertizing, but I can kinda see the need for it considering the attention spans of most people in this internet age. It`s over the top and opinionated, however I can say without a doubt that the information and skills he`s selling are real. Damion Ross was Carl Cestari`s right hand man for years before his death. He knows the material and he`s very, very competant. And I don`t think anyone could seriously argue with the effectiveness of what they were teaching.
Is there any sport application? No. Is there any cultural enrichment to be had in practicing this? No. Would it make an interesting hobby? Meh, depends on your personality. If you`re just looking for self-defense skills and don`t want to pursue any formal martial arts training, would this teach you how to defeat most attackers? Oh yeah! Is it more effective for self defense than most of what`s taught in say 80% of the dojos I`ve visited? Unfortunately yes.
This is basically the military hand-to-hand system developed by the U.S. and U.K. during WWII. It`s designed to be easy to learn, easy to recall under stress, and be effective for a person with no previous training. My dad was a H2H instructor in WWII with the 1st infantry division. I know for a fact this stuff works. And since wild horses couldn`t drag my daughters into a martial arts school I was glad that I could at least teach them the basics at home the way my dad taught me.
If your practice goals aren`t sport, socialising,getting in shape, or cultural, if all you wanted out of your training is the know how to defend yourself if the need arose .......you couldn`t find more pertanant info anywhere. Just my 2 cents
Is there any sport application? No. Is there any cultural enrichment to be had in practicing this? No. Would it make an interesting hobby? Meh, depends on your personality. If you`re just looking for self-defense skills and don`t want to pursue any formal martial arts training, would this teach you how to defeat most attackers? Oh yeah! Is it more effective for self defense than most of what`s taught in say 80% of the dojos I`ve visited? Unfortunately yes.
This is basically the military hand-to-hand system developed by the U.S. and U.K. during WWII. It`s designed to be easy to learn, easy to recall under stress, and be effective for a person with no previous training. My dad was a H2H instructor in WWII with the 1st infantry division. I know for a fact this stuff works. And since wild horses couldn`t drag my daughters into a martial arts school I was glad that I could at least teach them the basics at home the way my dad taught me.
If your practice goals aren`t sport, socialising,getting in shape, or cultural, if all you wanted out of your training is the know how to defend yourself if the need arose .......you couldn`t find more pertanant info anywhere. Just my 2 cents
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I got curious and started poking around...
Anyone else see the irony in Damian Ross posting How To Defend Yourself Against Fraud in his blog?
Anyone else see the irony in Damian Ross posting How To Defend Yourself Against Fraud in his blog?
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
First... You can't close the page without clicking OK and my PC/Netwrok security side wonders just what the hell is he trying to infect your PC and or network with.
So I recommend closing the page with a Ctrl+Alt+Del and closing Internet Explorer.. but understand that this will close your internet browser.
Now lets see
Where have I heard that before
But later on the page he has this
Sooooo how exactly is it “Combat tested”
Again where have I heard that before
aka caveat emptor, well at least he does warn you
Huh? So I have no goal.. not to survive, win, lose, help, or anything else
And once again…where have I heard that before
That right there tells you all you really need to know
I would disagree… as would just about any MA and major philosophy and religion on the planet.
And how do you become feared? By telling everyone how dangerous you are.. yup that will work
or just going out and randomly beating people up until the police arrest you, throw you in jail and you become your cell mate’s girlfriend.
Well I am already afraid of his page….but I am afraid of how many people are going to buy it, believe it and get themselves seriously hurt.
So I recommend closing the page with a Ctrl+Alt+Del and closing Internet Explorer.. but understand that this will close your internet browser.
Now lets see
Where have I heard that before
But later on the page he has this
Sooooo how exactly is it “Combat tested”
Again where have I heard that before
aka caveat emptor, well at least he does warn you
Huh? So I have no goal.. not to survive, win, lose, help, or anything else
And once again…where have I heard that before
That right there tells you all you really need to know
I would disagree… as would just about any MA and major philosophy and religion on the planet.
And how do you become feared? By telling everyone how dangerous you are.. yup that will work
or just going out and randomly beating people up until the police arrest you, throw you in jail and you become your cell mate’s girlfriend.
Well I am already afraid of his page….but I am afraid of how many people are going to buy it, believe it and get themselves seriously hurt.
Xue if I had a dollar everytime somebody told me it was street tested or to lethal for Police or Military I would be a rich man living on the Carribean sipping a cold fruity drink...
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
You, and me both brother but then Brian and everyone that responded to this post would be right there with us too and that is if just YOU had a dollar for every time you heard it. Add to that all the times we all have heard it and we could buy our own island
You, and me both brother but then Brian and everyone that responded to this post would be right there with us too and that is if just YOU had a dollar for every time you heard it. Add to that all the times we all have heard it and we could buy our own island
With tree's
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
Thanks Brian!
That page has a LONG laundry list of all you'll learn ... from a DVD. I too couldn't read every word and as I began the long list of promises I had the same feeling I always feel when these long lists of promises are afforded the potential customer: THE RED FLAG WENT UP.
Too good to be true.
The advertising was like a web-based, written version of an infomercial - nonstop and coming at you. You'd almost feel guilty not to buy it.
Guilt, guilt, guilt, thy name is Shesulsa.
:barf:
That page has a LONG laundry list of all you'll learn ... from a DVD. I too couldn't read every word and as I began the long list of promises I had the same feeling I always feel when these long lists of promises are afforded the potential customer: THE RED FLAG WENT UP.
Too good to be true.
The advertising was like a web-based, written version of an infomercial - nonstop and coming at you. You'd almost feel guilty not to buy it.
Guilt, guilt, guilt, thy name is Shesulsa.
:barf:
Jenny_in_Chico
Black Belt
He will make my bladder impervious to shock.
That is quite a grandiose claim, right there.
That is quite a grandiose claim, right there.
