Saving Wing Chun by Eliminating Chi Sau

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  1. gpseymour

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    Since most folks only tool around town, the limited range of an electric makes a lot of sense. Won't catch on as well in more rural areas, though, because parking spots are too often not right at the house, making charging more problematic. They're even getting close to solving the problem for distance travel - you can get a fast charge in the time it takes to have a meal. I think too many people look at the limitation of ~200 miles and think only about the 2-3 long trips they take a year, and forget how easy it is to rent for those, anyway.
     
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    I put 250,000 miles on my last manual. I killed the synchronizer towing with it, but the clutch lasted the entire 250K.
     
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    In some places it is, in others, it isn't. In bad traffic, it's sometimes not safe (where drivers aren't doing that last point). And on a big bike, it's not really feasible in a lot of places.
     
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    Electric really wouldn't suit me at all with current or publicised next gen tech - if they release one with solar charging efficient enough with cloud cover to never need to plug in then yeah, that'd work...

    Fast charging in the time it takes to have a meal? I don't like eating at service stops - I'm a splash and dash kinda guy - and they're going to have to massively increase the charging points too. Every charge point on the motorways I see has a queue, and that's with the current low numbers of electric cars...

    Then there's infrastructure - the power requirements to charge (especially fast charge) means that the distribution grid is going to be on it's knees soon... Imagine the load if every house hooked to the local tranny starts sucking 50+ amps out at the end of commute time and/or 10 amps all night every night.

    That said, I know a couple of people who have full electric and it suits them perfectly.


    Either way, I really think the days of personal motorised transport are nearly over.
     
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    I always managed on my BMW with wide Motorcross handlebars and full panniers - but the majority of drivers here are kinda used to it, which makes a huge difference.

    It's another thing that's highlighted in driving lessons and tests.
     
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    Yep, there are still some challenges. I haven't paid much attention to charging stations here in the US, except where they exist in parking lots (which is becoming pretty common in some areas). I've seen some stations advertising the chargers, but never noticed them in use (either because they weren't, or because I've no idea where they are so wouldn't notice).

    In the US, on the major motorways, many fuel stations also have standard restaurants (usually fast food, but at least not the old standard gas station fare), and folks often stop there for a quick bite, anyway. Of course, if the trips are rare, I still think renting is a logical fix. For someone like me (I travel distance by car 10-30 times each year, plus the rural issues), electric cars aren't a good solution yet.
     
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    My last bike was more like this:
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    Yeah, that's not really a bike though is it :p
     
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    Sofa on two wheels.
     
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    Driving in the hills of San Francisco, I’ve had it replaced twice. In a flat environment without heavy traffic, yeah you might never need to do it.
     
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    It's not mountainous around here, but it's not exactly flat either.

    And the traffic is a bar steward most of the time.

    And my car has a trailer on for like 80% of it's life.

    I'd be very disappointed if I didn't get at least 100k miles out of a clutch ;)

    When I drove a taxi I got 250k without replacing it and sold it - in and out of airports and stuff, so hours queuing in traffic.




    Edit to add:

    In general, cars here appear to be smaller and lighter than cars there, so less load for the majority.

    That's going to make a difference.
     
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    I had to replace the clutch in my last car at just under 100k mi. The original clutch was really tight and awkward to engage smoothly compared to my previous vehicles ...which may have contributed to wear, ...or more likely because I gave it to my 18 year old son to learn how to drive a manual? It took him a while to catch on.

    But regardless, a new clutch is nothing compared to replacing an automatic transmission. Now if I could just get a rebuild on my ankles...
     
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    Just had a really random thought regarding the title of this thread. If, in fact, you train the way you are traditionally supposed to ...that is if you eat, drink and breath chi-sau at every possible opportunity, then of course you will have to eliminate chi sau.

    Otherwise you'd... I dunno... explode? :D
     
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    No more WC for you. I'm cutting you off, mate.
     
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