Road rage

Discussion in 'General Self Defense' started by skribs, Aug 19, 2019.

  1. dvcochran

    dvcochran Senior Master

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    Fair enough, but what happened to provoke the other person into following you into a parking lot? If they are attacking you for other motives (robbing) it is no longer road rage related.
     
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    If you’re stuck in a spot you can’t drive out of and the other person gets out of their car, unbuckle your seatbelt. If stuff hits the fan, at least you’re not locked into a seat. There’s no way to duck when you’re buckled in.
     
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    Agree.
    Back in the '80's I was obsessed with Jeeps. CJ's mainly. They had a flat windshield that was surprisingly easy to break/chip. Usually caused by the person 4-wheeling in front of you kicking up a rock. A few time after a windshield had been chipped, in a fit of rage I would punch the windshield and could essentially shatter it where the punch landed. A windshield is safety glass so they stay intact. Not a smart idea to smash the windshield right in front of the drivers seat since it is hard to see driving home.
    Side windows are convex, they bow out. Makes them much harder to break. Yeah, I found that out the hard way. ;)
     
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    What I took out of the video is how fast it all happened. Wish the video had been longer.
    Not sure why the cyclist was so far to the center of the street though.
     
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    Except if it happens right outside your house...

    The inciting incident can often be in a parking lot. Contested parking spot, confusion over right-of-way through the driveways....
     
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    Even then, weight it up with giving away where you live, or driving to a police station or the like. Obviously unless you literally pull into your drive or something like that, consideration you should make anyway. and then what good would it do if you run to your house and dont have anyone in there to help or any weapons? they might just pursue you and kick your head in inside your own house.
     
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    Semi brain fart moment, i forgot what closed meant for car windows for a second there, but they might be more homogeneous if they are fully closed, you only need to compromise it slightly then the window is shattering anyway. By merit of, you cant lever it as easily.

    If it partly down you can lever it by pushing it (or punching) against the frame, or you can pull it towards you after you grab it. Obviously i have seen more videos of police break the windows by pulling it towards them if they have their hands/fingers in there, but you can lever something either way.

    It might be more valid for some cars, they are all made differently and each country has separate standards and even then some go out of their way to surpass them some get by on the bare minimum. Im hardly a engineer, but by above logic of there being no real lever to aid you in compromising it, makes sense.

    Sorry for double post, in regards to the video, its all i could find on that incident. Shame more things like that arent published really, no idea who made it first or even if that was the original or not. There is how ever a video of someone doing the street fighter bonus level of destroying a car in real life, where he punches the windows out i think. On the topic of that, here it is:



    skipped a little of the intro though as it was just a clip from the game.

    Addendum: correction he kicks out the side windows barring one.
     
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    hmm, at least in some aspects that car has been pre weakened. as he has definitely weaken some aspects, then it uncertain if he has weaken all of them. go to the scrap yard and try and RIP a bonet( hood for our american friends) off with you bare hands. youl still be there at xmas
     
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    It is very difficult to punch in most modern car side windows. However, with a spark plug, it takes so little pressure you can do it accidentally. A lot of bikers carry broken spark plug for that particular reason, I hear.
     
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    Presuming no one snuck up on me, I don't believe I would let anyone get that close to my vehicle while they were on foot.

    You can generally drive away. It might oblige you to make a speed bump of an angry idiot who doesn't realize cars are bigger than people, but hey.
     
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    Video did not work Bill.
     
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    Regardless, he still beat the crap out of a metal car. I wondered if he had his legs wrapped up to avoid cuts.
     

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