riot baton side handle?

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  1. Porong

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    can you think of any tactical advantage to adding a side handle to a riot baton?
     
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    Not especially. Unless you peg the guy with the handle like a hammer.
     
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    Well, you could use it like a tonfa
     
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    I think you're describing a tonfa..
     
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    Pr 24s I had one once. Couldn't get in to it.


    It is good for a lot of stuff you don't use a bat for. Pretty much.
     
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    PR-24 Prosecuter.
     
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    I used to work in Law Enforcement with a PR 24 a long time ago. Very effective when used right.
     
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    Depends on if you are just talking about a baton/club/nightstick that was used by law enforcement. Then when you added the side handle it was the PR-24 (tonfa). OR are you talking about actual riot sticks that are a thick hickory stick about 3 foot in length? It's usage would be more in line with hanbo techniques than a PR-24 strategy.
     
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    I believe it aids holding it slightly and i think you can get more force in some types of hitting. And you can block with and shorten/lengthen the instrument. You could also use it for thrusting if you flip it around from the traditional stance.

    And i think somone posted a video detailing all that.
    (they are banned here so i dont have a chance to fiddle with it)
     
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    Also used for traps, holds, and throws. Even chokes, although dangerous.
     
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    We carried the PR-24. The one thing that felt was natural with the handle was holding it in an upper arm block, which I never remember using while on patrol. It was too long on my side when I started riding a patrol bike so I switched to a 6C-cell Maglight. Just the right length and weight. If I didn't need the torch the light portion was perfect for positioning my grip. I don't know if they would allow it these days.
     
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    I still have an old 6C Maglight, but it doesn't work. Man, those were a sweet size. Do they still make those things?
     
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    I still have mine out in one of the barns. I swapped the incandescent bulb for a LED bulb and it made a huge difference. I saw them on a couple of sites including ebay and they were called "vintage". I assume that means they are discontinued. 6D cell are still available. $48 bucks from Maglite.
     
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    Yeah, I have one of the D cell ones, too. Just not as well fitted to the hand, y'know?

    I guess I need to either go pick up one of the "vintage" ones, or see if there's still a switch repair kit available for that one. I wonder where I put it...
     
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    I have one that I use when we walk the dog every night! ;)
     
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    I have never had to work on the switch but I imagine it is a tight fit.
     
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    I haven't yet managed to pull the existing switch. As I recall, they make a tool for it, but it's not supposed to be necessary. I need to go back and find the instructions I have stored somewhere. But first I need to figure out where I put that flashlight when I cleaned up my shop - it was sitting in my project tray, but I "put it away".
     
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    If you have to purchase parts, I strongly recommend getting an LED bulb.
     
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    That would definitely be high on my list. The incandescent wasn't bad, but I expect the LED is brighter, and it will certainly last longer.
     
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    I always carried the 4 C cell Maglite, as I recall. The longer one didn't swing fast enough.
     
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