Record all your MA knowledge on video

[jobo]

So, if he had an opinion, you've already decided it would be incorrect??

Well clearly as he has been giving strong hints, that if he did express an opinion, it would be at odd with mine, that automatically makes it incorrect

 

[Brian R. VanCise]

There is so much video available from top notch BJJ practitioners already that I haven’t felt the need to put out anything of my own.

However I’m starting to recognize that my own personal approach to martial arts and training and teaching is becoming distinctive enough that maybe it’s worth documenting. I think I’d like to start my own YouTube channel for this purpose.

Question for the video buffs: will the video cameras in the $50-79 range produce good enough output for this sort of project? My phone is on the cheap side and I don’t think its video is that great.

Most of the video camera's in that range are not good enough. However, that is just my opinion Tony.

 

[Brian R. VanCise]

As to the original question of the OP we are doing this in IRT through the monthly videos that I put out on Vimeo. It is an effort to record the skill sets and training that we do.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Question for the video buffs: will the video cameras in the $50-79 range produce good enough output for this sort of project? My phone is on the cheap side and I don’t think its video is that great.

I have a Sony camera. When I used Window Vista, I can use Window Movie Maker to edit my moves. After I have updated to Window 10, I have not found a movie editor yet. I started to let my student to create those clips. After my last Sunday class, I have not received those clips that we made that day.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

You said I had NO experianc e, now you admit I have some, but have changed it to no experience with specialists, what does that even mean ?, What level is a " specialist " I do grappling as part of my karate training, I've previously doNe some judo and jujitsu, a long time ago, it it's still experianc e, I'm not sure if any of those count as fighting specalists, but they all count as experience

I put "grapplers" in scare quotes because it was your word fat, out of shape, untrained guys who want to grab you because they don’t know how to fight, not mine. Singing in the shower does not make you a musician, checking your car's oil does not make you an auto mechanic, throwing a punch does not make you a boxer, grabbing someone does not make you a grappler.

In this context, I'm talking about someone who regularly practices (throws/takedowns/pins/submissions/etc) against resisting opponents who are trained and who are trying to do the same in return. Do you have that kind of experience?

 

[jobo]

I put "grapplers" in scare quotes because it was your word fat, out of shape, untrained guys who want to grab you because they don’t know how to fight, not mine. Singing in the shower does not make you a musician, checking your car's oil does not make you an auto mechanic, throwing a punch does not make you a boxer, grabbing someone does not make you a grappler.

In this context, I'm talking about someone who regularly practices (throws/takedowns/pins/submissions/etc) against resisting opponents who are trained and who are trying to do the same in return. Do you have that kind of experience?

Yes, I have that experience

My comments about fat blokes was a comment about fat Blokes who grapple as that's theIr advantage over a fast skin bloke like myself, I didn't say that was ALL my experiance, though if you haven't grappled a 280 lbs Beers swilling monster,who is trying to kill you,With his weight, in some badly lit car park, with no referee and no crash mats And a fights that's over when one of you needs intensive care,then your experiance is in its self lacking

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Every one thinks their opinion is correct, otherwise they wouldn't hold that opinion,

Some of my opinions are based on decades of decades of first hand personal experience coupled with study of the worlds top subject matter experts. I'm going to be reluctant to change those without substantial evidence to the contrary.

Some of my opinions are my offhand thoughts on something I just saw in a video once and have no personal knowledge of. I am unlikely to present these opinions as authoritative and require much less evidence to revise them.

Some of my opinions are matters of taste rather than fact and so don't qualify as "correct" or "incorrect."

I think it's probably a good idea to distinguish between these types of opinion.

That's just my opinion, of course.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

Yes, I have that experience

Cool. I don't think you've detailed that experience before. What arts were you training? For how long? How long ago? What level of competition did you work against and what level of success/accomplishment did you reach?

What is your experience with single legs, o uchi gari, and/or combining leg reaping methods with leg grabbing methods? How does this training tie in to your evaluation of KFM's technique video? What specific technical flaws do you see and how would you address them?

 

[jobo]

I did judo i

Cool. I don't think you've detailed that experience before. What arts were you training? For how long? How long ago? What level of competition did you work against and what level of success/accomplishment did you reach?

What is your experience with single legs, o uchi gari, and/or combining leg reaping methods with leg grabbing methods? How does this training tie in to your evaluation of KFM's technique video? What specific technical flaws do you see and how would you address them?

I did judo my 20s for 5 years, before trading it for king fu, I did jujitsu, in my 30s for two years before trading it for tkw, I do " grappling now in my karate,

My accomplishments are i can hold my own with a 280lbs monster and my assessment of the single leg grab is it won't work, particularly it won't work if they weigh 280lbs and have legs like tree trunks. if you put you heaD in like that to push, they will forearm smash you to the ground

You seem to be playing the " I'm much better than you" card to belittle my view, however it seems that I'm not Falling for that

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I did judo i

I did judo my 20s for 5 years, before trading it for king fu, I did jujitsu, in my 30s for two years before trading it for tkw, I do " grappling now in my karate,

My accomplishments are i can hold my own with a 280lbs monster and my assessment of the single leg grab is it won't work, particularly it won't work if they weigh 280lbs and have legs like tree trunks. if you put you heaD in like that to push, they will forearm smash you to the ground

You seem to be playing the " I'm much better than you" card to belittle my view, however it seems that I'm not Falling for that

Actually, it seemed to me that he was trying to figure out - in short order - what your background in grappling was and what specific technical points you were trying to make. You'd made neither of those clear, and it shortens the discussion and prevents some misunderstandings to just get them out there.

As for your comment on the leg grab. Okay, so it doesn't work against a 280 lb bloke. I'm pretty sure my liver punch won't either. And there are things I won't try on someone who's 7 feet tall, either. And I'm not going to try for a hip throw on someone who's a foot shorter. But all those things actually work........if I use them appropriately.

 

[jobo]

Actually, it seemed to me that he was trying to figure out - in short order - what your background in grappling was and what specific technical points you were trying to make. You'd made neither of those clear, and it shortens the discussion and prevents some misunderstandings to just get them out there.

As for your comment on the leg grab. Okay, so it doesn't work against a 280 lb bloke. I'm pretty sure my liver punch won't either. And there are things I won't try on someone who's 7 feet tall, either. And I'm not going to try for a hip throw on someone who's a foot shorter. But all those things actually work........if I use them appropriately.

It won't work against anybody that uses you ducked in head as a target, or someone who takes the opportunity to bitE your ear or grab you by the throat and squeeze the life out of you or bear hugs your neck. Or just an old fashioned finger in the eye,I'N short it won't work anywhere outside a dojo a cooperating partner, things ether work in the real world or they are just demos,

 

[Flying Crane]

Actually, it seemed to me that he was trying to figure out - in short order - what your background in grappling was and what specific technical points you were trying to make. You'd made neither of those clear, and it shortens the discussion and prevents some misunderstandings to just get them out there.

As for your comment on the leg grab. Okay, so it doesn't work against a 280 lb bloke. I'm pretty sure my liver punch won't either. And there are things I won't try on someone who's 7 feet tall, either. And I'm not going to try for a hip throw on someone who's a foot shorter. But all those things actually work........if I use them appropriately.

There is a time and a place for everything. Half the battle is being able to recognize what is appropriate on very short notice.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

It won't work against anybody that uses you ducked in head as a target, or someone who takes the opportunity to bitE your ear or grab you by the throat and squeeze the life out of you or bear hugs your neck. Or just an old fashioned finger in the eye,I'N short it won't work anywhere outside a dojo a cooperating partner, things ether work in the real world or they are just demos,

You seem to have missed that the head doesn't come into that position until the leg is already swept up. At that point, most strikes are far less effective, a bear hug is unavailable, and a throat grab is probably not going to be effective as your'e falling down backwards.

 

[oftheherd1]

Throwing arts require expertise. You don’t pick up Judo, Sambo, or wrestling by watching YouTube.

You’re entitled to your opinion about how ineffective or easy to counter the move might be. Given that you have no actual experience with the grappling arts, you might consider that your opinion on the subject might be less informed that of people who have spent decades actually throwing people and be thrown. Just a thought.

When I first saw the video my first thought was along the lines of @jobo's. What do you do to prevent the person whose leg was grabbed from punching the heck out of you? Then I remembered what I always tell people about the Hapkido I studied; you have to be fast and accurate when employing a technique. I think that is the mistake @jobo made. He looked at it at the speed shown, which is undoubtedly for demonstration purposes. I expect if that technique is done at speed, the person being grabbed would not be thinking how many times he can strike his opponent, but rather "How did I fall for that, and can I get my hands down quick enough for a decent break fall."

 

[oftheherd1]

I have a Sony camera. When I used Window Vista, I can use Window Movie Maker to edit my moves. After I have updated to Window 10, I have not found a movie editor yet. I started to let my student to create those clips. After my last Sunday class, I have not received those clips that we made that day.

I know you have mentioned working in IT. There are several FOSS movie editors in Linux that have gotten good reviews in some Linux magazines. That is if you have ever dabbled in Linux.

 

[oftheherd1]

It won't work against anybody that uses you ducked in head as a target, or someone who takes the opportunity to bitE your ear or grab you by the throat and squeeze the life out of you or bear hugs your neck. Or just an old fashioned finger in the eye,I'N short it won't work anywhere outside a dojo a cooperating partner, things ether work in the real world or they are just demos,

There is a time and a place for everything. Half the battle is being able to recognize what is appropriate on very short notice.

This.

 

[Jaeimseu]

Takedowns, in general, are highly ineffective. A chop to the neck negates the takedown and ends the fight, as can be witnessed in any video of a competitive fight.


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[Gerry Seymour]

Takedowns, in general, are highly ineffective. A chop to the neck negates the takedown and ends the fight, as can be witnessed in any video of a competitive fight.


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You've bought my video set, I see. Have you progressed beyond the "preventing MMA style takedowns in one easy step" disc?

 

[Jaeimseu]

You've bought my video set, I see. Have you progressed beyond the "preventing MMA style takedowns in one easy step" disc?

No need. The only issue I’m having is that all the guys at my BJJ gym give me dirty looks now and no one wants to roll or work with me in drills. Those guys are so jealous of my takedown defense.


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[Tony Dismukes]

When I first saw the video my first thought was along the lines of @jobo's. What do you do to prevent the person whose leg was grabbed from punching the heck out of you? Then I remembered what I always tell people about the Hapkido I studied; you have to be fast and accurate when employing a technique. I think that is the mistake @jobo made. He looked at it at the speed shown, which is undoubtedly for demonstration purposes. I expect if that technique is done at speed, the person being grabbed would not be thinking how many times he can strike his opponent, but rather "How did I fall for that, and can I get my hands down quick enough for a decent break fall."

In general, when your leg is grabbed you have to stop the takedown (if possible) before you worry about countering with strikes. KFM's video just shows the entry to the grab, not the actual finish. The takedown attempt would be coming immediately.