Ok I give up who the heck is Tom Carnes??

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Mr.parson dont get me wrong on the balintawak.As a base that means start but, not nessecaly the whole or strong part of the art.Bruce Lee had Wing chun as a base.His strong was epie.
 

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A simple tech of the art would know the topic was Balintawak.From there it referd to the past post I made & his referance to the post.Now the next step is an example to refer to so what is said (if to tech.) now broke down, but, it apears furtur break down is in order.I thought the arts were undrestood or are you just there to bad rep the way the teaching are.My ways are harsh on how I speak & teach but, if you take your time insted of hastily moshing.You will see its quite logical & detailed.
 

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monkey said:
I thought the arts were undrestood or are you just there to bad rep the way the teaching are.My ways are harsh on how I speak & teach but, if you take your time insted of hastily moshing.You will see its quite logical & detailed.
Your background is a whole other story. I'm referring to your apparent lack of ability to put together a coherent post. Use a spell-checker, have someone proof-read for you. Your posts make you appear uneducated and are a large part of the resistance you've met on this forum (your LOOK AT ME! attitude accounting for the rest).
 

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Some times i do have the look at me .Hey when you train privote with the best.You want to pass it on.Then comes those who train seminar only & call you fake do to fact your not part of thier club.The art is the art.Talk the art & I am more then cohereant.Some things might be bit hard as I say it & its read-But over all the meaning is sound.
 

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Some times i do have the look at me .Hey when you train privote with the best.You want to pass it on.Then comes those who train seminar only & call you fake do to fact your not part of thier club.The art is the art.Talk the art & I am more then cohereant.Some things might be bit hard as I say it & its read-But over all the meaning is sound.
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monkey said:
Some times i do have the look at me .Hey when you train privote with the best.You want to pass it on.Then comes those who train seminar only & call you fake do to fact your not part of thier club.The art is the art.

The big difference here Tom, is that you're making it sound like you were "THE" only one who has ever trained with Master Presas or any of the top people! There are many who have trained with the Prof., the MoTT, as well as many other top people in other FMAs.

Perhaps taking a step down from the high horse you seem to be riding, and not being so evasive would be a good start.



Talk the art & I am more then cohereant.Some things might be bit hard as I say it & its read-But over all the meaning is sound.

Ummm..many are talking about the art, and still can't understand what the heck it is you're trying to say. While your intentions may be good, its hard for some to get the point of what you're trying to say, if they can't read what you're typing!

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Thats how you take it,if you look at it as some one who wants to pass on the art great.But from day 1 all doubt ranks-time ect.Even though it was clearly published & Mr Hubbard even saw my ranks are not white out or tampered with.The art I did with Jose Presas y Bonco (the fauther to Remy & Ernesto )was Kuntao Arnis.Now Mr Hubbard has the film of the old school-some of my Army time-some of my privates I tought & some 2004-6 footage.I never said I was the only one,but many jump on me for they have not seen it.Well they were not there.How is it those from the 90s got to be heirs on who did what from the past.The art is the art.1979-80 Remy & Ernesto tought as brothers in Sacramento,I am in the class picture.there are others but I dont see any of you nor the Fma!This is not to say you didnt have time-I had time-My ranks are clean-legal & clear.So I have no choice but to defend my self as you cant see the ranks or me teach & same gose for you-I cant see your ranks or how long you trained-or if it was just seminars(were you obtained your ranks),I did private with Jose & privates with Remy & Ernesto.I have rank for that time1981-1999.This will not ever say Im out of date.Maybe you werent tought what I had & you might want it as an all around total art,or even for historical resogns.
 

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monkey said:
Thats how you take it,if you look at it as some one who wants to pass on the art great.But from day 1 all doubt ranks-time ect.Even though it was clearly published & Mr Hubbard even saw my ranks are not white out or tampered with.The art I did with Jose Presas y Bonco (the fauther to Remy & Ernesto )was Kuntao Arnis.Now Mr Hubbard has the film of the old school-some of my Army time-some of my privates I tought & some 2004-6 footage.I never said I was the only one,but many jump on me for they have not seen it.Well they were not there.How is it those from the 90s got to be heirs on who did what from the past.The art is the art.1979-80 Remy & Ernesto tought as brothers in Sacramento,I am in the class picture.there are others but I dont see any of you nor the Fma!This is not to say you didnt have time-I had time-My ranks are clean-legal & clear.So I have no choice but to defend my self as you cant see the ranks or me teach & same gose for you-I cant see your ranks or how long you trained-or if it was just seminars(were you obtained your ranks),I did private with Jose & privates with Remy & Ernesto.I have rank for that time1981-1999.This will not ever say Im out of date.Maybe you werent tought what I had & you might want it as an all around total art,or even for historical resogns.

I can assure you Tom, that I do not get my training just from seminars. I attend class and private lessons on a regular basis. I have a great group of people and a fantastic organization that I train under. As I said in another post, with a little digging, much info. can be obtained.

In addition, you've made it very clear as to who you've trained under. I really don't see why you feel that you have to keep repeating yourself.

In closing, I wish you the best in your training.

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Thanks-the resogn for bringing it up is if i dont then others will whoed you train with -what rank are you ect,Ive seen what been said about the Datus.That rank should never had been given.Some even whent as far as their name istn right with the tilte.Such as the title Master.Now some names work but,Mr. Bates debated with Remy & got a higher title for it.It took me 6 years to aquire Master title.Some got a small ttile for Commitioner.That was a gut buster rank.Now if you want to talk the art & how to utilies it,I can do that but ,from what Ive seen mostly on the sites is not so much of the art but,is a dog or cat best!Religion in the arts!I know topics are a bit hard to find-but the art was the topic.Or supose to be not on how much as 1 posted who got my dvd.(It clear he has skills-the poor qualitly of the 1 camera & shows his ranks.I will continue to watch (morbitly)just to see it. This is one example of how some wont see the art but rather choose to see nothing.
 

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Rocky said:
First a lot of Remys Staff and close quarters off setting ( Empty Hand ) came from Tjarkata ( I know I spelled it wrong ) Its heavilly Indonesian.

Secondly I was wondering if Rich could promote me? I always wanted to be " The Dean of the first international Modern Arnis Academy of Female Jello Stick fighting...... Our Mission State will be " Better body mechanics through less clothing" Off course all of our little hotties...I mean girls... will get nothing but the best "Hands on" teaching available from yours truely!!


Rocky

"My wife says some guys play hard to get......I play hard to want"......I don't get it???

But Rocky, You are already are! You must just go DO and it will be done. ;) :D :)
 

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Mr.parson dont get me wrong on the balintawak.As a base that means start but, not nessecaly the whole or strong part of the art.Bruce Lee had Wing chun as a base.His strong was epie.

Example of name dropping. What does Bruce Lee have to do with this disucssion?

Example of not taking the time. My Name is Rich Parsons. You can call me Rich as others do or Mr Parsons if you want. That is with a "s" at the end of my name. By not caring enough to worry about a person's name you show disrespect. If you do not know their name and one uses their TAG or USER ID displayed where my name is, then that is fine as well.

I understand Base and Start and Beginning. Do you?

I have a question for you.

First you state that GM Remy A Presas does not have the Family System, and then Later you Claim to be the Guardian and Master of Modern Arnis, signed bu GM Ernesto Presas and Prof Leonard Trigg. So this means you DO NOT HAVE the system that GM Remy Presas taught. You have something compeltely different. This is fine. So please stop talking about your one seminar with Both GM Remy and GM Ernesto and their Father.

Haivng Balintawak as an Art I know and Teach, and also Having Modern Arnis as an Art I know and Teach, I know their are differences between each art. The story from GM Remy himself is that he watched and trained while his GrandFather taught a Bolo crew. Since there is more to Modern Arnis in the way of strieks that are Blade work then there are in Balintawak (* Balintawak is optimized for Stike Striking *), I wonder where GM Remy got his training from then? If not from his Grand Father as Family then from who?
 

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Mr.parson dont get me wrong on the balintawak.As a base that means start but, not nessecaly the whole or strong part of the art.Bruce Lee had Wing chun as a base.His strong was epie.

Whose Strong Point was "Epie"?

GM Remy Presas

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monkey said:
A simple tech of the art would know the topic was Balintawak.From there it referd to the past post I made & his referance to the post.Now the next step is an example to refer to so what is said (if to tech.) now broke down, but, it apears furtur break down is in order.I thought the arts were undrestood or are you just there to bad rep the way the teaching are.My ways are harsh on how I speak & teach but, if you take your time insted of hastily moshing.You will see its quite logical & detailed.


DUDE you are so wrong!

A simple Technique? Is this what you are trying to say? Of Balintawak is the Epie? You are so far from the truth it is funny.

As to understood:

If you were coherenet people could follow.

People do understand both Modern Arnis and Balintawak here. Ithink it is you who do nto understand them.

As to Logical and Detailed? I beg to differ as you cannot even answer a simple YES or NO Question I ask you.

You quote yourself and name drop and through in RED herrings to get people off topic. No Logic in there, other than to get the topic off on something else.
 

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monkey said:
Some times i do have the look at me .Hey when you train privote with the best.You want to pass it on.Then comes those who train seminar only & call you fake do to fact your not part of thier club.The art is the art.Talk the art & I am more then cohereant.Some things might be bit hard as I say it & its read-But over all the meaning is sound.

DUDE,

GM Remy lived with Rocky. When he was not there he was traveling, and this was for a long time. Later he got a house and lived elsewhere.

Yet, we had lots of Private lessons with him. We would pay his full Seminar Fee and Fly him in and train with just our small club oh say 8 people splitting the cost. We would train like this for the weekend or for a week it was his down time.

As to seminars, I have been escorted out of them before by GM Remy because he would say to our group, "Hmmm They are not ready for you yet." Most of my training came from either the Old Man himself or from those he taught in 70's.

This is just another example of how you come across bad, and how you make it seem like only you were the ONE to train with GM Presas.

As to speaking the Art, you have said little I have heard that GM Remy himself say. Once again you make it sound like others do not get you, when all the rest of us can communicate just fine.

If everyone has a problem with you and only you, then maybe just maybe it is not the rest of the world but you yourself who has the problem communicating.
 

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MJS said:
The big difference here Tom, is that you're making it sound like you were "THE" only one who has ever trained with Master Presas or any of the top people! There are many who have trained with the Prof., the MoTT, as well as many other top people in other FMAs.

Perhaps taking a step down from the high horse you seem to be riding, and not being so evasive would be a good start.





Ummm..many are talking about the art, and still can't understand what the heck it is you're trying to say. While your intentions may be good, its hard for some to get the point of what you're trying to say, if they can't read what you're typing!

Mike

Gee the MoTT's: Hmmm Dr. Randy Schea started in the Early 80's (* not sure of the date and do not wish to be toof ar off *) and I believe and Brian Z started in 1982. So I guess these guys have not been around at all.
 

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monkey said:
Thats how you take it,if you look at it as some one who wants to pass on the art great.But from day 1 all doubt ranks-time ect.Even though it was clearly published & Mr Hubbard even saw my ranks are not white out or tampered with.The art I did with Jose Presas y Bonco (the fauther to Remy & Ernesto )was Kuntao Arnis.Now Mr Hubbard has the film of the old school-some of my Army time-some of my privates I tought & some 2004-6 footage.I never said I was the only one,but many jump on me for they have not seen it.Well they were not there.How is it those from the 90s got to be heirs on who did what from the past.The art is the art.1979-80 Remy & Ernesto tought as brothers in Sacramento,I am in the class picture.there are others but I dont see any of you nor the Fma!This is not to say you didnt have time-I had time-My ranks are clean-legal & clear.So I have no choice but to defend my self as you cant see the ranks or me teach & same gose for you-I cant see your ranks or how long you trained-or if it was just seminars(were you obtained your ranks),I did private with Jose & privates with Remy & Ernesto.I have rank for that time1981-1999.This will not ever say Im out of date.Maybe you werent tought what I had & you might want it as an all around total art,or even for historical resogns.


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Do you understand what I just type?

This is how you came across to most if not all those present here.


Once again you state that people were not there. Where were you you?
Why not just accept that fact that some people did not meet eachother do to geographical location. No everyone must stop what they are doing and spend time with you and keep you honest and stop making misleading and false information, and also try to help you communicate.

Do not get me wrong one can be iliterate and still fight. I am not calling you that, what I am saying is that you do not communicate well at all.


Never tested at a summer camp or seminar. We always Flew GM Remy in for a testing. This did lead to Jeff Delaney calling me a liar about this, hence why I do not critique him or his org at all for I know I cannot keep an open mind with him for personal reasons.


Yet this is not the issue here. If you jsut came online and answered questions. Gave good solid posts and they had information that people could read and understand and learn from, then this would not be an issue. Instead you try for force your rank and titles on us and then force us to translate your poor typing.
 

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Thanks-the resogn for bringing it up is if i dont then others will whoed you train with -what rank are you ect,Ive seen what been said about the Datus.That rank should never had been given.Some even whent as far as their name istn right with the tilte.Such as the title Master.Now some names work but,Mr. Bates debated with Remy & got a higher title for it.It took me 6 years to aquire Master title.Some got a small ttile for Commitioner.That was a gut buster rank.Now if you want to talk the art & how to utilies it,I can do that but ,from what Ive seen mostly on the sites is not so much of the art but,is a dog or cat best!Religion in the arts!I know topics are a bit hard to find-but the art was the topic.Or supose to be not on how much as 1 posted who got my dvd.(It clear he has skills-the poor qualitly of the 1 camera & shows his ranks.I will continue to watch (morbitly)just to see it. This is one example of how some wont see the art but rather choose to see nothing.


You say you want to talk the art.

Then talk the art and explain some technqiues.

Not just post who you trained with and have the attitude of OH Look at me.

6 years for Master Title. Sir I turned down and disappointed GM Remy when he offered rank and titles because I did not think I would need them. I had what I had learned. I still do not use the term nor ask people to call me as such, it is used in our Club as per the instruction of our Senior Master.

Titles are the issue here with us. It seems to be your concern. Drop it and also stop the name dropping and add content as you say you want too and maybe you can shar the art as you say you want too.
 
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