muay thai good for street fights?

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show me a fighting stance where you can't easily get hit in the groin when standing still and don't know how to block low kicks, which btw, muay thai fighters know.

Yes, Muay Thai fighters block kicks with their shins. Also know how to defend against teeps, every stance is going to leave some open spots. Blocking the head is top priority you can take a body shot and crack a rib but a head shot could be a knock out.
 

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a knock out for the fist of the attacker yes. :p
except of the jaw, its not that bad to get hit in the head. while a hit to the liver or the groin could better give you pain and injuries that end the fight.
 

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a knock out for the fist of the attacker yes. :p
except of the jaw, its not that bad to get hit in the head. while a hit to the liver or the groin could better give you pain and injuries that end the fight.

Very true, but I feel like any style of MA you can find flaws in. Just because MT fighters have their hands blocking their head doesn't mean they can't drop their elbows to block body shots.

The only perfect MA would be one where you can grow six arms use four to cover your self and two to attack. As well as Mr. Fantastic ability to stretch.

All in all you're right a hit to skull you will be able to return. However a kick to the groin all us guys know will bring us to our knees.
 

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I haven't seen any street fight that could not been ended with a well placed knee to the gut, solar plexus or even head-level if required
 

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I haven't seen any street fight that could not been ended with a well placed knee to the gut, solar plexus or even head-level if required

just curious and sorry to hijack thread.

With all the training that we do, i have no doubt that in a street fight, we can 'lights out' the thug pretty easy. Therein lies my problem.... i sometimes will run scenarios in my mind where i get jumped (though likely not, being a safe jurisdiction, and i keep out of danger zones), and instinct takes over and i land a 'killer blow' to either the head, or ribs, severely injuring the thug. (Concussion, broken ribs etc). Honestly i will feel damn guilty if i accidentally killed someone, or even severely injure anyone... am i the only one feeling this way?

(or i could be way overestimating my abilities, lol)
 

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just curious and sorry to hijack thread.

With all the training that we do, i have no doubt that in a street fight, we can 'lights out' the thug pretty easy. Therein lies my problem.... i sometimes will run scenarios in my mind where i get jumped (though likely not, being a safe jurisdiction, and i keep out of danger zones), and instinct takes over and i land a 'killer blow' to either the head, or ribs, severely injuring the thug. (Concussion, broken ribs etc). Honestly i will feel damn guilty if i accidentally killed someone, or even severely injure anyone... am i the only one feeling this way?

(or i could be way overestimating my abilities, lol)

fights have risk.
 

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just curious and sorry to hijack thread.

With all the training that we do, i have no doubt that in a street fight, we can 'lights out' the thug pretty easy. Therein lies my problem.... i sometimes will run scenarios in my mind where i get jumped (though likely not, being a safe jurisdiction, and i keep out of danger zones), and instinct takes over and i land a 'killer blow' to either the head, or ribs, severely injuring the thug. (Concussion, broken ribs etc). Honestly i will feel damn guilty if i accidentally killed someone, or even severely injure anyone... am i the only one feeling this way?

(or i could be way overestimating my abilities, lol)
If a guy attacks you he takes that risk as long as you use reasonable force and don't go over the top like stamping on his head when he's on the ground or something like that then you'd be fine.

Personally yeah If I killed an attacker I wouldn't feel good about it but I wouldn't feel guilty either they made the choice to attack me or try and rob me whatever they have to live (or not) with their consequences of their actions
 

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I broke a guys arm in a hammer lock once. that felt pretty creepy at the time.
 

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Forget everything you learn in the gym street fights have no rules so play dirty, if you get into stance and everything you do have more chance of getting hurt, just defend by not giving the opponent a chance to attack :)
How, precisely, does getting in a stance make someone more likely to get hurt?
 

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Still not sure how this groin kick is any more open to be honest. Are people saying there is some anti groin kick stance? Cos I reckon I could still slip one in there regardless of how a person is standing.
Sitting cross-legged, with your body leaned over your shins. You're open to just about everything else, but that groin is well shielded!
 

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The streets man. Where black is white. Up is down and everything that works in the gym doesn't.

Don't you know nuthin bout the streets?
I'm just trying to figure out how to stand NOT in some sort of stance. Wait, are we back to that cross-legged sitting position I mentioned earlier?
 

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I'm just trying to figure out how to stand NOT in some sort of stance. Wait, are we back to that cross-legged sitting position I mentioned earlier?

That is because you don't understand street stances. As an experienced street fighter i have adopted a specialised street manover called the foetal stance. Which i have become a master of.
 

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That is because you don't understand street stances. As an experienced street fighter i have adopted a specialised street manover called the foetal stance. Which i have become a master of.
Now I'm trying to picture you standing in that stance. My back hurts just thinking about it - you must be a complete badass to have mastered that one!
 

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That is because you don't understand street stances. As an experienced street fighter i have adopted a specialised street manover called the foetal stance. Which i have become a master of.
It occurs to me that the fetal (US spelling, which is the only correct spelling for that stance, and anyone who spells it differently doesn't understand the stance) stance would also protect against that groin kick. You've now been caught contradicting yourself, and must commit some sort of ritual suicide...which will be difficult in that stance.
 

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I mean I've never had someone go for a blatant groin kick, but the way the leg check works, it should still be effective. The same singular leg check won't work on every kick so you do have to react dependently on where the low kick targets. Digging deeper, most fighters won't just kick you, and will distract you with a set up jab or combination. On the street you're more likely to experience a straight up groin attempt without much strategic set up involved. It's good to be aware of your green zone. If they're close enough to kick you in the nuts that's the red zone. a good technique to get back to the green zone is the "teep" to separate the distance. I'm not that experienced so I'm sure someone else has a better answer.
 

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On stances:
No stance can be perfect, although some can be better than others. This is because we have human bodies, not hedgehog ones.
 

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I mean I've never had someone go for a blatant groin kick, but the way the leg check works, it should still be effective. The same singular leg check won't work on every kick so you do have to react dependently on where the low kick targets. Digging deeper, most fighters won't just kick you, and will distract you with a set up jab or combination. On the street you're more likely to experience a straight up groin attempt without much strategic set up involved. It's good to be aware of your green zone. If they're close enough to kick you in the nuts that's the red zone. a good technique to get back to the green zone is the "teep" to separate the distance. I'm not that experienced so I'm sure someone else has a better answer.
Yes, distance is key. The inside leg roundhouse kick can easily crush groin which is generally set up with punches, and it does score a lot of (illegal) groin shots. As for checking- it works against any round low kick. If the kicker targets your ankle (which is inadvisable), raising your leg evades it (like every single kung fu sweep defence thing I see).
 

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just curious and sorry to hijack thread.

With all the training that we do, i have no doubt that in a street fight, we can 'lights out' the thug pretty easy. Therein lies my problem.... i sometimes will run scenarios in my mind where i get jumped (though likely not, being a safe jurisdiction, and i keep out of danger zones), and instinct takes over and i land a 'killer blow' to either the head, or ribs, severely injuring the thug. (Concussion, broken ribs etc). Honestly i will feel damn guilty if i accidentally killed someone, or even severely injure anyone... am i the only one feeling this way?

(or i could be way overestimating my abilities, lol)

The key detail here is that you are the one being "jumped on", thus you're the victim of an assault.
Some countries has laws that favours the one being attacked in a situation like this... a clear case of self defence.
You'd want to be careful if there's no such law in your country.
And the guilt, well.... you'd deal much lightly with unjustified guilt rather than injury.
 

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